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sharkathmi

sharkathmi

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That Black Talon thread got me to thinking of some ammo I have had for many years.
It is my understanding that this ammo was also pulled from the market after only a short time.
I may be wrong, but if I recall correctly, it was pulled because of the devastating injuries it was causing.
Here are a couple pictures of it.

44 Spl
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You can see the white plastic base of the bullet.
Once the bullet leaves the barrel, the white base separates from the bullet and you have a copper tube flying through the air.
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Here are some 38Spl+P
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Again, you can see the while plastic bases that will fall away from the bullet once it leaves the barrel.
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As I understand it, the wounds from the ammo was quite destructive.
As this hollow tube passes through the target, it would make a tubular wound channel, leaving behind a loose core that doctors had to deal with. It was also known to travel in an arc once it became unstable after hitting the target.

Both of these rounds are loaded in PMC brass.
Does anyone remember the name of this ammo?
I don't recall any more.
Thanks.
 
Originally Posted By: sharkathmi
I may be wrong, but if I recall correctly, it was pulled because of the devastating injuries it was causing.

maybe im wrong, but isnt that the whole point?
 
It is sold only to LEO's. SOF found a round of it at Waco. Its bullet is a copper jacketed piece of steel tubing. A conical hollow base cavity is sealed with a similarly shaped piece of plastic. When the bullet exits the muzzle, the air flow thru the bullet pushes out the "plug", and the rotating tubing does a "holesaw" thing thru Kevlar, etc. PMC had some copper tubular bullets out for a while, about 25 years ago, in .44 special and .38 special. When shot into jello, they extruded "spaghettis" of jello back out of the entrance hole!.

If you cast a bullet out of "non-lead" plumber's solder (95% tin, 5% antimony), it will weigh only 2/3rds as much as if it were cast of lead. When you bore the hole thru it lengthwise, (centered, of course) it becomes another 1/3rd lighter. The Tin is so hard that a normal luber-sizer machine can't size the cast bullets. YOu have to use Lee's sizer die in a reloading press, and Lee's Alox (semi-liquid)lubricant. If you do so, the bullets can be driven to over 2000 fps without significant bore fouling. A 100 gr bullet at 2000 fps is no harder on the gun or the shooter than a 200 gr bullet at 2000 fps.

Because tubular bullets have little frontal resistance to air, they hold their velocity really well. The same feature makes them extremely penetrative in flesh, too.
 
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I have some of those they were called "Cookie Cutters" and they cut a perfect circle right through the flesh and bone like a cookie cutting through dough. Hard to sewup or so that is what I was told.
 
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