Remington 700 CDL SF Limited 17 Rem Fireball

Being an all around newbie.

New to the site.
New to the calibre.
New to varmint hunting.

Just want to introduce myself, say hello and I just purchased my CDL SF version on GA.com today from the exchange all I can say is it sure is a good looking rifle and the calibre has always intrested me. My other rifles are in .270 and .300wm and i thought this one fits right in
I didnt mind paying the premium price as this is a LE version and may be worth more money next year than it cost this year. Wont have it till about the 10th of August but really looking forward to shooting it. I have enjoyed reading the posts here thanks everyone.
 
The so called ejection problem everyone is reffering to is more of a push feed action thing than big receiver little case. You dont have this problem with controlled round feed actions{no matter what size the case is} because the case clears the receiver and continues rearward until it hits the standing ejector, at which point there is nothing to touch, hit, drag or otherwise stop the case. With the 700 or any other push feed type rifle the case is simply flung out by the ejector plunger as soon as it clears the receiver. Which in most cases drags, flattens one side of the mouth and marks up, scratches and then finally hopefully manages to dump the case out...sometimes it dont even do that. Make no mistake about it, changing the extractor wont help this design. The 700 is a great rifle and very popular for various reasons but if Remington offered the option of controlled round feed in this model they would sell but very few of the current type. I for certain wouldn't buy another push feed model if they did. Controlled round feed is the reason the pre-64 model 70 will always hold its value over and above the 700.
I have found the accuracy issue mentioned above in my Fireball and it was not the rifle or ammo's fault. The scope, a Nikon IRT has clamps on the bottom that attach to Weaver style bases. I have steel Warne bases and the clamp was hitting the receiver on the front base before it got tight. Not by much, a 1/16" ground off turned her into a 1/2 minute shooter. It would have not happened with regular Weaver brand bases, the Warne's are kind of thin in the front. I actually like the rifle now. I also glassed it and recut the crown. It had what looked like a beautiful crown that some moron at Remington then decided to deburr with a dull countersink by hand, it was pitiful. Sad to see this kind of work on American guns.
 
Catshooter nailed it.
The 700 action is just way oversize for the 223 case head calibers. They belong in a smaller action like the Sako Vixen.
Trying to make the 700 feed the 223 reliably enough for the rapid fire stages has frustrated a lot of gunsmiths for many years. The problem is normally with feeding though not ejection.

Personally, I much prefer a push feed action. The controlled round feed may have a place hunting dangerous game from strange positions, with nervous clients, but that is about it. You won't see many, if any, controlled round actions used in any competitions.

Jack
 
msinc...

I have owned many Remingtons over the years, my first one was a 722 in .222 (that I bought new in the late 50's.

The only problem Remington has had with the extractors is that the original series didn't go deep enough into the rim space. They extracted OK, but a little wear would cause them over-ride the rim and leave a case in the gun once in a while - but this took thousands and thousands of rounds before it would happen...
... far more than would ever be shot out of a "dangerous game" rifle.

In the late 70's or early 80's, Remington re-designed the extractor. It was changed from the "revet" style to the "snap-in" design. When they redesigned it, they also added a larger amount of "bite" to the extractor.

At the same time, they redesigned the old replacement revet extractors, so if/when you got an extractor replaced, it was now good forever.

So the current Remington rifles and refitted older rifles will not be subject to extractor failure. I have seen the bolt handle break off of the bolt, because the extractor would not let go of a stuck case (and the jerk that owned it, used a hammer on the bolt handle).

I also own a bunch of Winchesters... some are push feed and some are claw feed. And for many reasons, I prefer the push feed.

The biggest draw back with the claw feed (aka "controlled feed"), is that if a case jumps the rails, or if you carelessly single feed a round, it can be chambered in front of the claw, and then you have a problem, cuz the round has to be knocked out with a cleaning rod... and if it's in a big bore rifle, and you are facing an Baddassed African Kitty Kat, you are SOL in a big way... if the PH isn't on his toes, you are din-din.

If I were hunting the big five in Africa, and had to buy a new bolt gun, I would chose a Push feed Remington or Push feed Winchester.

But I have a English 375 H&H African Express repeater, so I would use that for nostalgia reasons... like I need to worry about going to Africa in this lifetime /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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I have a 700 BDL 17 Rem and Model 7 CDL 17 Rem. Fireball........no problems with either ejecting so far shot probably 150 rounds in each.
 


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