Remington buys Marlin

Originally Posted By: 2muchgun

Don't get me goin' old man
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Preaching to the choir my friend.
I was a member of the Local 780 in Vegas where I served my apprenticeship.
One day when I stopped by the hall to check on my vacation pay I witnessed a guy who didn't even have a green card purchase a journeyman's card for 150.00..
After just spending my last two years of high school at a vocational school and another two years to get my journeyman's card (which I was very proud of) I was more than a little pizzed.. When I asked about it I was told that there were different requirements for residential..
Several years later I sat in at a meeting at a coffee shop where a BA accepted a two gate agreement at a local multi-family HUD job I was foreman on. He was handed a 2500.00 cash "donation" to the union welfare fund.

Like I said... "Greed and Corruption".. Unions, Big Business, and Government are all equally guilty..
 
I have seen plenty of it myself. My father in law is a retired BA. Over 10yrs now. He managed to keep his nose clean when all these fools got indicted around here. The Feds told him if he didn't testify that they were gonna throw him in jail. He told them that is gonna be hard to do because they had nothing on him. And they didn't. He didn't testify and nothing became of it.

I know it's gotta be hard to organize the residential side because a lot of the guys would have to take a pay cut in order to become a first year apprentice. And go to school. What do you do? They end up selling them books.

So have you been to the international training center in Vegas?

http://www.carpenters.org/CraftsAndSkills/Itc.aspx
 
Originally Posted By: rockinbbarCerberus bought the whole shebang awhile back.

The own Marlin, Remington, DPMS, Bushmaster, H&R.

So far each company is operating under it's own management and sells products that way.

Barry

Don't forget Dakota.

Let's see now, if they should get short of cash in the future, they could go to the Feds and Obama would take over much like GM.

Scary, isn't it. Impossible, I think not.
 
Originally Posted By: 2muchgun

So have you been to the international training center in Vegas?

http://www.carpenters.org/CraftsAndSkills/Itc.aspx

No,,, that was after my time. I graduated,,,,,,,,,, well,, let's just say sometime before 1970.
I went to Vo-Tech. It was a joint venture between the unions and the Clark Cnty school district.
Most of the trade unions were involved. You went your junior and senior years of HS. When you graduated you were a third year apprintice. They actually built a spec house eavery year that all the trades participated in. The money from the sale of the house went back into the school.
It was actually a good program. I think we could use more programs like that right now but that would require the unions giving somthing back and school districts being able to teach something other than Marksism..
I left Vegas for No Nevada in 82. Don't think that center was around even then...
 
I've got a good one for ya Charlie, two summers ago, a local hospital was wanting to build a seperate facility for autistic children. When all the bids came in, they decided they couldn't afford it.
They put out a cry for help to all the unions since the hospital had used 100% union labor for years. Just about every union came to their aid and donated apprentice labor.

On top of that, almost every supplier donated material.

My company won the carpentry bid and I was the forman. I had a crew of about 8 company guys, and the rest of the crew was a fresh batch of apprentices every Monday morning.

You want to talk about frustrating?! All in all it went pretty well. It was neat to see everyone come together for the greater good.

Now don't get me started on the officials...Ever since the international took our right to vote away, I haven't had anything good to say about any of them!
 
Originally Posted By: mulfMarlin isn't going out of business. They are closing the Conn. plant. and moving production elsewhere. Seems I heard a while back that they wanted to consolidate w/remington in NC.


Just curious, where did you read that they were moving? I read two articles and neither one mentioned moving, only that they will lay off all employees in Conn.
 
Originally Posted By: Martyn4802Originally Posted By: mulfMarlin isn't going out of business. They are closing the Conn. plant. and moving production elsewhere. Seems I heard a while back that they wanted to consolidate w/remington in NC.


Just curious, where did you read that they were moving? I read two articles and neither one mentioned moving, only that they will lay off all employees in Conn.

I think I heard it on a H&R forum somewhere, maybe GBO. H&R moved a while back and I'd heard Marlin was soon to follow. Only a rumor though, I don't know where the posters got their info.
 
More news on Marlin Closing, in Conn.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hGdPLmmpsEk0M-aK4NVxVXPK1WTAD9EMG9N80

NORTH HAVEN, Conn. — Marlin Firearms Co., a 140-year-old company which made a gun that was a favorite of Annie Oakley, is closing its Connecticut plant, company officials said Friday.

Workers at the plant in North Haven say they've been told all 265 employees will lose their jobs.

Jessica Kallam, a spokeswoman with Madison, N.C.'s Remington Arms Co. Inc., which owns Marlin, said the Connecticut plant will close by June 2011 and employees would be offered severance and help finding jobs. She said Marlin is relocating its manufacturing operations to an undetermined site.

Kallam could not confirm if all employees in Connecticut are losing their jobs.

She read a company statement that says Freedom Group, which owns Remington, must reduce its costs to remain competitive.

"Although long term prospects of the business look positive, economic factors beyond Freedom Group's control related to increasing costs and pricing pressures within the firearms industry are impacting the entire Freedom Group of companies," the statement said.

Remington Arms bought Marlin for nearly $42 million in 2007.

Marlin's Web site says John Marlin opened the company in 1870 in New Haven after having worked at the Colt plant in Hartford during the Civil War. The company says its lever action 22 repeater was a favorite gun of Annie Oakley.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.



http://www.examiner.com/x-4525-Seattle-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2010m3d26-Marlin-Firearms-closure-announcement-hits-hard

Marlin Firearms closure announcement was not funeral announcement
March 26, 12:56 PMSeattle Gun Rights ExaminerDave Workman

Hunters and shooters in the Pacific Northwest aren’t much different from their contemporaries all over the country, so the announcement that the Marlin Firearms Company is closing its doors in North Haven, CT by June of next year initially hit a lot of people hard in these parts, including me.
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UPDATE!!!! According to a late Friday post by Dave Petzal, the initial news was not so gloomy as everyone believed at first, including me! It appears Marlin is moving from the North Haven plant to another location. My best guess, based on some preliminary information, is that it will be in a more business- and labor-friendly state, perhaps down in North Carolina where Remington has a facility.


Bottom line: Marlin is going to remain alive and kicking! This is one clarification I’m delighted to add to my column.

Last year's surge in gun sales was largely dominated by sales of AR-15 type rifles, home-defense shotguns and semiautomatic handguns. However, Marlin builds traditional lever-action big game rifles, and one superb bolt-action big game rifle, along with so many quality .22-caliber semi-auto and bolt-action rimfires one can hardly keep track of them all, and I've never seen one that was not accurate.


Well, the good news is that we'll evidently continue seeing those guns in the marketplace. It is the Connecticut plant that is closing. That part of the story appears to be locked in place. That, of course, is the sad part.

Connecticut is apparently not the best place to conduct business, which precludes any hope that an offer from our state’s office of economic development could lure Marlin here for a new start at the west end of the country. (Want to own a small business in Washington? Start a big business and just wait.)

Full disclosure: I own two Marlin bolt-action rifles, the superb, albeit short-lived, MR7 and the very accurate XL7, and I’m very fond of them both. It is in the lever-action arena where Marlin has earned its reputation, of course, and one simply does not erase a legend.

Workers at the North Haven company say they learned about the closure plans Thursday. They told local news media layoffs will begin in May and the company will close by June 2011.

There was no immediate comment from Remington about the likelihood that Marlin production would be moved to a new location, a more business-friendly environment, but others are certainly talking about likely relocation. (They're not talking about Washington, of course; too bad, it would be nice to see a Marlin factory in these parts, and Washington sure could use the jobs!) The Associated Press quoted Marlin's Jessica Kallam — who I could not reach Friday — that the production would be relocating.

The situation appears to be compounded by the fact that Connecticut is a difficult state for any manufacturer to sustain its business model.”—North Haven First Selectman Michael J. Freda

For anyone devoted to civil rights, that is good news. For those afflicted with hoplophobia, that’s bad enough to elicit fear and loathing; so much that they feel compelled to try their hand at dictating how Starbucks ought to run its business.

Now, in addition to buying a cup of java from Starbucks, one may want to invest in a Marlin rifle. Or make that a couple of Marlin rifles. Looks like they'll be around for a long, long time.
 
Originally Posted By: Brian G.Come on down to VA, we would love to have them!

As a business owner in Virgina, I can firmly say that would be a mistake. Part of the problem they were having was the taxes.
John
 
Originally Posted By: mulfThe date on that article makes me a bit suspect...

LOL..!!

The Marlin Firearms is becoming a fishing tackle company "information" is an April Fools Day gag...

The rest is real... The actual sale occurred a few months back..... The move from New Haven to a more labor friendly climate was not unexpected. That's exactly what FN did with the remnants of USRAC and the Winchester Model 70, etc. a couple of years ago..

-BCB
 
More on Marlin closing and moving. Looks like they "MAY" move to Ilion, NY, where Remington builds their guns. Not a bad idea to have the two co-located.

The Ilion facility has been under renovation since the 2008 relocation of Harrington & Richardson production in 2008.
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http://www.uticaod.com/news/x1...ompetitive-situation

By JENNIFER BOGDAN
Observer-Dispatch
Posted Mar 31, 2010 @ 06:45 PM
ILION —

Just how likely is it that the jobs from a recently closed Connecticut firearms manufacturer owned by Remington Arms could come to the Ilion plant?

State and local officials Wednesday said it’s too early say, but some pointed to a similar plant closure that boded well for Ilion as reason to believe it could happen again.

“This is a very competitive situation,” Herkimer County IDA Executive Director Mark Feane said. “It’s safe to say it’s a similar situation, and we certainly hope the outcome will be just as good.”

On April 7, 2008, Remington announced it would close the Harrington and Richardson Firearms plant in Gardner, Mass., leaving 200 people out of work.

But by the month’s end, Remington announced a more than $11.5 million renovation project that would relocate 100 jobs from Gardner to Ilion. Empire State Development Corp. provided a $1.5 million JOBS now grant for the project.

Remington Arms Chief Marketing Officer Mark Hill said it was too early to know whether that situation would repeat itself.

“It’s safe to say we’re in the middle of negotiations,” Hill said. “When the time comes to make an announcement, we will do so, and it will be very clear.”

Last week, Marlin Firearms Co., based in North Haven, Conn., announced the plant with 265 employees will close by June 2011. Officials from Remington Arms, which acquired the North Haven company in 2007, said Marlin’s manufacturing operations would be relocated to an undetermined site.

County officials announced Tuesday they would begin conversations with Empire State Development Corporation, the county IDA and others in an effort to bring the jobs to Ilion.

Sen. James Seward, R-Milford, is aware of the Connecticut plant’s closure and has since had conversations with Remington officials about bringing those jobs to Ilion as well, Seward’s spokesman Jeff Bishop said.

“He’s reaching out to other to try to make it happen,” Bishop said. “He plans to do everything he can to bring those jobs here.”

As of December, about 900 people worked in the Ilion gun manufacturing plant, which dates back to the early 1800s.

Copyright 2010 The Observer-Dispatch. Some rights reserved

http://www.empirestatenews.net/News/20080422-5.html

New jobs coming to Mohawk Valley at Remington Arms Ilion facility

ALBANY - Remington Arms will add 100 new manufacturing jobs as part of a major renovation of their Ilion Firearms Plant and Custom Shop. The 192-year-old facility, which is the Mohawk Valley’s largest employer and the nation’s longest continuous manufacturer, will undergo a $14.3 million renovation, with $3 million provided jointly by Empire State Development and the New York State Senate.

ESD will provide a $1.5 million JOBS Now capital grant to assist in the relocation and consolidation of the Harrington & Richardson Firearms’ manufacturing facility, which is currently located in Gardner, Massachusetts. Both Remington and H&R were acquired by the private equity firm Cerberus in the past year. The County of Herkimer may also apply for a $734,000 Small Cities grant on behalf of Remington Arms to be applied to costs associated with this project.

The New York State Senate will provide a $1.5 million grant to be used by Remington Arms for capital costs associated with the renovations and new equipment purchase.

Remington Arms designs, produces and sells sporting goods products for the hunting and shooting sports markets, as well as for military, government and law enforcement.
 
I can certainly see why that would make them more competitive. With that much grant money, it looks like a nice package.
John
 
Sad to see that they have to close the plant down in New Haven. Hope they continue making Marlins for a really long, I love those rifles!
 
Connecticut, you lose.
New York, you win.
I seriously doubt that Connecticut will ever get the message.
Connecticut had the perfect opportunity to learn when Winchester left the state. But, I'd bet a bundle they didn't even raise an eye brow. After all of manufacturing facilities leave Connecticut, will someone please turn off the lights...
Slope head Liberals...
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