Remington Model 700 VL SS VS Savage Model 12 BTCSS

[/quote]What are you gonna use it for? Neither of those rifles are very user friendly when it comes to carryin'....... [/quote]

Everything from punching paper at the range (non competitive) with the boys, to hunting coyotes, gophers & crows.
That said, weight isn't a problem because I won't be doing much hiking with it, I also have a light weight 22-250 for that task.

I'm just looking for peoples experiences with either of these guns, good or bad. & if one might be a little bit better shooter than the other & I like the price of both.
 
OldTurtle

Good stuff, that's what I'm looking for, I have a Savage Mark II Thumbhole & I like it so the stock isn't really a big concern for me. Same with either trigger, I don't mind them, they work for me.


Thanks ole boy
 
Yeah, that's an idea, can't never have to many calibers, I was just thinking I already have dies for 22-250..............dies are pretty cheap though.
 
Originally Posted By: Orneryolfart357Isnt the Tikka the only manufacurer producing a 1/8 twist .223 without special order?

Savage Model: 12 VLP DBM offers a 223 with a 1-7 twist.
 
Tough decision really. I've had a few 700's and a few Savages in the safe over the years. I liked all of them. Between the two rifles mentioned I'd probably choose the Savage.

Does the 700 have a wood stock? My latest Remington was a VS SPS Stainless, the stock was worth $.02 in my opinion. If the stock is wood it most likely will need to be bedded. The Xmark trigger broke at 6 lb. However, I got it down to almost 4 lbs with adjustment. So I had to replace a trigger and stock, an added expense. Right out of the box this gun shot 1.5" groups at 100 yards. That's pretty bad for a heavy barreled varminter.

My hatred for Remington comes from the fact that as long as they have been in business they've learned nothing from it. A rifle barrel should be free floated, not pressure point bedded.

The Savage will undoubtedly have a free floated barrel right from the factory assuring better accuracy. Savage has learned what makes a rifle accurate. I also like the idea of a 1:12 twist on the Savage.

I'm not a fan of fast twist barrels. I have no interest in a .224 cal that can shoot 100 gr bullets from a 1:4 twist, I'd sooner just buy another cartridge to handle heavier bullets like a .243.


 
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Originally Posted By: joed I'm not a fan of fast twist barrels. I have no interest in a .224 cal that can shoot 100 gr bullets from a 1:4 twist, I'd sooner just buy another cartridge to handle heavier bullets like a .243.


That's my thoughts exactly, I don't want to shoot 70 grain pills out of my .224, I already have a 257 Roberts to cover that range.
 
I shoot a Remington 700 varminter, I don't have any problem with my x-mark trigger it is adjustable, and quite crisp. My biggest beef is with the twist rate and the crappy stock it came with. I have replaced my stock and shoot light bullets so now its not a big problem, but given the opportunity to have a do-over I would go with the savage.
 
I would go with a Savage hands down. I have owned the Mod 12 LPV and it was a joy to shoot and very accurate it had a 1-12 twist used 55gr.NBT and tore some coyotes up with it and some paper as well. Never owned a Remington Varmint rifle how ever I do own a Remington 700 SFII Sendero in 264Win Mag it has the X-Mark trigger and it will be replaced before next season for sure. I have never had an issue with the Accu-Trigger and have had and have quit a few of them and they were all great triggers IMO and am fixing to try out the new Target Accu-Trigger next week on a new Mod 12 Long Range Precision I just got this last week.
Not to mention Savage customer service is top notch as well. Good Luck
 
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