**Remington R15 question**

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Greg Ashby

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Please advise on which R15 to purchase. I have recently started predator hunting and I'm wanting to buy a R15 but can't decide between the .223 or .204. Dang it! Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Greg
 
why the R15 over any other AR variant? I prefer buying components and assembling my own. Just curious about your decision to stick with that specific version.
 
I would say 223 just for the fact that bullets are easyer and cheaper to come by, because when you get one they are such great fun to shoot you will need the cheapest bullets you can find just to play around with. Thanks Billy
 
Hi Gregg
What I think Cbass means is that the R-15 is not as refined a rifle as a lot of the other AR manufacturers,I have a RockRiver heavy barrel,and a R-15 .223 and yes the RockRiver is a better tighter product by far,but for a good reliable,light calling gun that you can beat the crap out of well,the R-15 will do the job.I call in some real extreme weather and just can not see bringing some of my finer hardware out.My R-15 never gets anything but a cleaning once in a while and I have killed yotes with in below zero temps.
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Cbass and his buddies have some really sweet hardware and they do know the AR platform in side and out.
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P.S. Go with .223 coyotes are tough,I love my .204 for woodchucks but for coyotes I use the .223 or my 22-250.


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Originally Posted By: BAYSTATE YOTEHi Gregg
What I think Cbass means is that the R-15 is not as refined a rifle as a lot of the other AR manufacturers

well actually i have never shot the R15 so i dont know as much about it as I do other ARs. the reason i (and others i run with) avoid the R15 is that it only comes in the .204 and .223 and it isnt customizable in the sense that other black rifles are. I'm sure with some paint dipping you could swap stocks or for grips and have them match but thats kinda a waste to me. I dont like someone else deciding what camo i get.
Does anyone else know if you could toss a standard DPMS/RRA/Bushmaster/Stag/Oly upper on top of the R15? Are they compatible with each other?

I myself love the versatility of having multiple uppers and set ups available to me. I hate aluminum tubular forends. they get nasty cold in the winter, even with gloves...I prefer a quadrail with rail covers.
I can take my 24" heavy bull .243WSSM upper off, and put on a .223 carbine in about 5 seconds, take that off, and slap down a .338LM bolt upper on. multiple weapon systems on the same lower is the beauty of the AR.

when they come stock with that camo, no one really wants to take them apart and put new furniture on them cause then the camo wont look pretty anymore. Silly i know.
The R15 seems just a bit overpriced for what it offers. Not only that, building assembling your own set up gives you a plethora of knowledge about the inner workings of your set up. If anything ever goes wrong, it is usually a VERY easy cheap fix. If you dont know how they go together and how they work, a $10 fix could be a $100 trip to the smithy.

ALL THAT SAID, I have no doubts they shoot great and work well, it's just that other set ups i believe can shoot better and you can build them to suit your own specs.
 
Well said Cbass,I agree with you on many of your points.
I do like the round tubular forearm,and I dont like the quad rail,up here in the east I have to move through brush a lot to get to stands and I mean dense crap,the round forearm does not snag up as bad when I am going through.The round forearm also works well on the shooting sticks when I have to switch position fast before the dog see's me move.
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I can not shoot prone,I have arthritis everywhere so I have to have a little seat and use sticks.
Great job on that video!!
 
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Originally Posted By: cbass16
BAYSTATE YOTE said:
Hi Gregg
Does anyone else know if you could toss a standard DPMS/RRA/Bushmaster/Stag/Oly upper on top of the R15? Are they compatible with each other?

Yep, it works. Put an Oly 243 wssm upper on mine the other day for fitting purposes and fits just like any other AR upper would.
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Originally Posted By: lanoleYep, it works. Put an Oly 243 wssm upper on mine the other day for fitting purposes and fits just like any other AR upper would.

well that does make it mildly more appealing then.

if the poster is set on getting an R15, my vote is now for the .223
 
Originally Posted By: cbass16Originally Posted By: BAYSTATE YOTEHi Gregg
What I think Cbass means is that the R-15 is not as refined a rifle as a lot of the other AR manufacturers

well actually i have never shot the R15 so i dont know as much about it as I do other ARs. the reason i (and others i run with) avoid the R15 is that it only comes in the .204 and .223 and it isnt customizable in the sense that other black rifles are. I'm sure with some paint dipping you could swap stocks or for grips and have them match but thats kinda a waste to me. I dont like someone else deciding what camo i get.
Does anyone else know if you could toss a standard DPMS/RRA/Bushmaster/Stag/Oly upper on top of the R15? Are they compatible with each other?

I myself love the versatility of having multiple uppers and set ups available to me. I hate aluminum tubular forends. they get nasty cold in the winter, even with gloves...I prefer a quadrail with rail covers.
I can take my 24" heavy bull .243WSSM upper off, and put on a .223 carbine in about 5 seconds, take that off, and slap down a .338LM bolt upper on. multiple weapon systems on the same lower is the beauty of the AR.

when they come stock with that camo, no one really wants to take them apart and put new furniture on them cause then the camo wont look pretty anymore. Silly i know.
The R15 seems just a bit overpriced for what it offers. Not only that, building assembling your own set up gives you a plethora of knowledge about the inner workings of your set up. If anything ever goes wrong, it is usually a VERY easy cheap fix. If you dont know how they go together and how they work, a $10 fix could be a $100 trip to the smithy.

ALL THAT SAID, I have no doubts they shoot great and work well, it's just that other set ups i believe can shoot better and you can build them to suit your own specs.

You truly did not know that Bushmaster makes the R-15 and just puts Remingtons name on it??!!
If not here is some info for you..... the r-15 is made by bushmaster and the r-25 is made by DPMS.
The R-15 is ABSOLUTELY no different that any other ar-15 in the bushmaster/dpms class of guns. As for changing things around on the r-15; if you can do it with any other ar-15 then you can in fact do it with the remington r-15.
 
.223 in 18"
I have the above with the CS.
The R15 is as good as any other AR out there for coytes, bobcats etc., besides the stock trigger, & much more usefull as a carrying gun. No matter what anyone has to say or think about them.
If you are more of all day varmint shooter, yes then a heavy barrell AR would be better, like an RRA PP.

Get what you want NOT what others think you should have!
 
Greg, I have a 204 D-Tech AR and 2 R-15's. The uppers are interchangable. I took my 204 upper with me to the PM hunt in New Mexico along with my 18" R-15. I prefer to hunt with the R-15 but when we had the Egg Shoot I put the D-Tech upper on the R-15 lower and it worked perfectly.
I like the 223 better for Coyotes, it kills with more authority. I've taken several Coyotes with the 204 and it works fine and is a lot more fur friendly. Shot placement is a little more critical with the 204 in my opinion.
Good Luck
Ken
 
Originally Posted By: Pro_hunt

You truly did not know that Bushmaster makes the R-15 and just puts Remingtons name on it??!!

nope, i had no idea, I have never researched the Remington versions as i said before, simply because i had no interest in them. Good to know though.
 
Thanks for all the input. Hopefully I will be able to make an informed decision soon. There is so much to digest for now. The .223 seems to be the obvious choice for the caliber. I can see that I have alot of homework to do related to which AR to go with. If anyone else has any information please share.

Thanks,

Greg
 
You know the 204 ruger is a necked down 223 with almost the same ballistics as a 22-250. I just don't see what the problem everyone has with the 204 inside 300yds. The only difference in the 204 and the 223 is the different weight bullets you can shoot and in the near future that will be taken care of when the different bullet manufactures start giving us a better bullet selection.
 
gotta give the vote to the 18" cs .223. at 6 and 3/4 pounds and it shoots under 3/4" groups with factory harnadys: I'll keep mine for a long time. A very nice handling accurate gun. It's all i need!
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Originally Posted By: cbass16Originally Posted By: Pro_hunt

You truly did not know that Bushmaster makes the R-15 and just puts Remingtons name on it??!!

nope, i had no idea, I have never researched the Remington versions as i said before, simply because i had no interest in them. Good to know though.

Nope. Not the same gun. Remington, Bushmaster, and DPS are owned by the same parent company. Byron South had a discussion about the differences a while back.

I have an R15 Byron South in .223 and love it. 1/2" groups at 100 yards with Winchester ammo.
 
I had the same questions about a year ago. I already had two .223's so I went with the .204 with the 22" barrel.

My results with the .204 are as follows.

Coyote number one was shot at around 90 yards with a shot right behind the shoulder. The bullet (40 grain v-max) left a golf ball size exit and the yote ran full tilt for about 40 yards and then piled up dead.
After this yote I wasn't too sure about the stopping power of the .204. The yote was not DRT.

I have since killed a dozen or so with the .204 and NONE of the other animals have even twitched after shooting. I have only had one other exit hole and it was small. I rolled one up on a dead sprint at a ranged 193 yards and another on a dead run at 150 yards. I have not taken a yote with it yet beyond 200 yards but can say that within that range with a well placed shot the .204 is impressive.

I went out looking for a wolf yesterday to see what it would do with a well placed shot. I found a lot of elk and several fresh wolf tracks along with recent pee (snow was still yellow) but the wind was wrong and did not see any wolves.
Next time.
Good luck on your purchase, either way I think you will like the R-15.

Lyle
 
My first time out coyote hunting with my R15 it was a very cold morning. A friend & I got our white camo on and walked down the road next to a field with some dairy cows. We found a spot along a tree edge and tucked in along the cover. The sun was just rising and my friend was still trying to get situated about 10 yards from me when I noticed a dark blob about 300 yards out into the field. I looked through my scope and sure enough all I could see was the head of a coyote. The landscape between us had a slight rise so only his head was visible. I raised my dying rabbit call and gave 1 call. Then I noticed a couple other coyotes pop up. They must have been laying down. All three trotted into the woods like they wanted to circle around for a closer look. All of a sudden, two more popped out from the other side of the field from a ravine. They were heading straight across the field towards where the other coyotes were one right behind the other. I looked through my scope and shot the coyote who was following which was a smart move. The leading coyote turned around to see what just happened to his fallen comrade which gave me a shot on that one too. Couldn’t believe it, my first time out I got a double thanks to the semi auto loading of the R15. Both were shot at 250 yards verified by laser range finder and Google Earth. This all happened so quickly my buddy didn’t even realize what was happening as he was still getting situated in his spot. Poof, 30 seconds and two coyotes down. We walked out to drag them back and those dogs were way bigger than I expected. DNR lists them at 30 lbs. MAX. I’ll bet they were pushing 45 lbs. I never weighed them but I have a 35 lb. dog and these coyotes were significantly bigger than him. They weren’t wolves either...just giant coyotes.
 
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