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William Suter

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I went in to Tulsa today to Sports World. They are probably the largest gun shop in town and surrounding areas. I was looking for a set of rings for the Sako I bought over the week-end. I was talking to the owner about Remington and I asked if they have went under. He commented that it looked like it as they haven't got any new Remingtons in quite some time. I asked if he thought someone would buy them and he said no. Hard to think a company the size of Remington would just go totally under.
 
when they first went under Remington was broken up and sold off in parts. Ammo went one way, rifles and shotguns also went in different directions or maybe the guns stayed together.

it took awhile for them to come back but from what i hear the guns are going under again. prices to high and quality supposedly isnt there anymore.
 
its not the unions that killed it - its the anti-gun lobby lawfare. 100% in response to the bushmaster/sandy hook lawsuit that was - incorectly - allowed to proceed.

thats why freedom group was splitup and sold off.



FWIW - the parent company that owns federal/cci/speer bought the ammo side of things, IIRC they bought it lock stock and barrel - all the equipment, all the proprietary data/formula(s), etc. they have said they're keeping the original recipes for everything in the current production, so in theory stuff like primers (7½, 9½) and the core-lokt ammo line will be equivalent to the legacy products they're "replacing"
 
I read somewhere that RemArms tried to move but ran out of funding. At the time they said they couldnt do anything else with out funding. Said people need to see them as a start up that they werent just taking over a company that was already running which made sense.
They did put out a few rifles. I wonder if it was parts already made or if they made them? I bought a 6.5 CM thats fairly accurate
 

While many are actually bouncing all around the answer and not being totally incorrect maybe the above article will help.
Fact is they did move from Illion to La Grange, Yes Unions did have a role especially when the previous owner basically stole the retirement funds... The new owners didn't wish to assume the debt, which if one listens closely the new CEO addressed it without saying it two years ago.
Honestly it wasn't just one thing in my opinion but seemingly everything from all angles. that led to the sale off. If this is the stake in Remington's resurrection I'll personally be sad, always have preferred the brand.
 
Just like most other companies, it seemed to really go down hill after it was bought by an investment company.

Now to see what Ruger's next move is going to be with their situation.
 
If you've been wanting anything Remington, especially from the early years (60's-80's) before quality started to slip, you better jump on it now. I'm seeing prices inch up on old school Remington shotguns like the 870 and 1100.

I recently bought ten Rem 870 Police Magnums with the old school wood stock and corn cob forend on a Officer Buy-Back from a neighboring Sheriff's Office for $140-$150 each, they were in excellent condition for being made between 85-87.

I've recently pick up a couple 1100's and a Nylon 66 .22LR as well ($490 for the 1100's and an amazing $75 for the Nylon 66). I'm now looking for a couple .22's like the older 552 Speedmaster and maybe a 870 Wingmaster or two.

Here is an example of how those 870's cleaned up...



This Nylon 66 has no serial number meaning it's 1968ish, barrel code has it as Dec 68.

 
Bowhntr6pt said:
I recently bought ten Rem 870 Police Magnums with the old school wood stock and corn cob forend on a Officer Buy-Back from a neighboring Sheriff's Office for $140-$150 each, they were in excellent condition for being made between 85-87.
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Might need to source a barrel or two with the Rem-chokes for those with the rem chokes. for duck and etc shooting. The 870 is a excellent platform.
 
Last week-end at a local gun show I saw an 1100 Remington for $1500. I'm sure it didn't sell but I think that's the direction they are heading. The 870's weren't that high. Most of the 870's I saw were still around $450-500.
 
William Suter said:
Last week-end at a local gun show I saw an 1100 Remington for $1500. I'm sure it didn't sell but I think that's the direction they are heading. The 870's weren't that high. Most of the 870's I saw were still around $450-500.
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That's insane unless it's some type of special edition. The going rate right now on GunBroker for 1100's, which at times can be on the high end, seems to be $650-$850 depending on condition.
 
The guy that had the 1100 is always high priced but that 1100 is stupid high. But.....he sells stuff. He wants to buy for pennies on the dollar then flip them for more than they are worth. But he's not alone, you see that alot at a gunshow.

Years ago, a dealer would sell to another dealer at a discounted price. These days dealer pay top money for an item then mark it up so they can make a dollar. Before long its changed hands enough that the price is extremely high. Your best deals are individuals walking the floor trying to sell.
 
Bowhntr6pt said:
If you've been wanting anything Remington, especially from the early years (60's-80's) before quality started to slip, you better jump on it now. I'm seeing prices inch up on old school Remington shotguns like the 870 and 1100.

I recently bought ten Rem 870 Police Magnums with the old school wood stock and corn cob forend on a Officer Buy-Back from a neighboring Sheriff's Office for $140-$150 each, they were in excellent condition for being made between 85-87.

I've recently pick up a couple 1100's and a Nylon 66 .22LR as well ($490 for the 1100's and an amazing $75 for the Nylon 66). I'm now looking for a couple .22's like the older 552 Speedmaster and maybe a 870 Wingmaster or two.

Here is an example of how those 870's cleaned up...



This Nylon 66 has no serial number meaning it's 1968ish, barrel code has it as Dec 68.

Click to expand...
They may had been a little better quality wise as far as finishes but most anything built on a modern CNC will be more accurate. Back then people were litterly eye balling it. They were able to look down a barrel to see which way it needed tweaked or bent to make it straighter then they would bend it and ship it. They did put out some accurate rifles but they just couldnt match modern tech.
 
Remington killed remington. CEO AND THE BOARD. Union wages are negotiated and the top will make more in a week than the employees do all year.
Remington got greedy and jumped on the black rifle band wagon while living in a legally and morally corrupt state.

They should have moved long before they tried to. At any rate, there are better rifles and shotguns available for less money than what they were selling. If the quality was there, they would have made it.
Colt will be saved under CZ and Ruger will be by Beretta.
 
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