Byron South
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Just got Remington's new 11-87 Predator shotgun yesterday and thought ya'll might like a sneak peak. They should be available right after the first of the year. Don't ask me for a specific date but I believe they are in production.
The first thing you will notice is the new stock design. It's called the "Shur Shot" stock. Being a lefty I was glad to see it is an ambi. Basically it is a pistol grip stock with a high comb to put you at the proper height for the nice fiber optic sights.
The next thing you will notice right away is the extended magazine. This shotgun hold 6 3" shells and 1 in the pipe for a total capacity of 7 (6+1).
It is also drilled and tapped to facilitate a weaver rail that is an optional accessory. This would be cool with a halo sight or EO Tech, but quiet frankly I kinda like the fiber optic sights.
With a front coming through today and the wind blowing in excess of 30 mph, I decided my day would be better spent at the range getting to know this new shotgun rather than trying to call a coyote or two. Plus, tomorrow should be a good day to call and I wanted to get my new shotgun ready.
Remington also sent me some of their new Wingmaster HD loads in BB's and T's. Both in 3".
The 11-87 came with an extended choke marked "Wingmaster HD Turkey/Predator". Calson's Chokes also sent me three different chokes to try, the "Dead Coyote" choke, a .680 and a .670.
With this new shotgun, two loads, and three chokes I had my work cut out.
Most of my shooting was done at 40 yards and once I decided on a choke I backed of to 50 to shoot it three more times for confomation on what I can expect. 50 yards is my self imposed limit as I know the little pellets are running out of steam and getting pretty thin on the target usually by 50.
I won't bore you with all the targets and quiet frankly I'm to tired to try and post them all. What I will show you is the targets shot with the combination I settled on.
I was running out of paper to pattern with so I decided to shoot three shots on each sheet and mark them where I could tell one from the other. The first shot is marked by coloring over the pellet hole in a circle. The second shot is marked by drawing a box around the pellet hole, and the third a triangle. In the center as an aiming point I stapled a 9" paper plate. On the right you can see the pellet count for each shot.
This target is shot with the combination that did the best.
If you will notice the pattern was a little high. The reason soon became evident when I went to adjust the rear sight. After about 30-40 rounds of this HD stuff the sight had moved forward during recoil. I moved it after and shot it in and centered the pattern. I would show you the target but it was a mess as I only changed the paper plate and not the back paper.
This is a target shooting the HD T's through the same choke. Both loads like this choke the best. This was also shot before I re-adjusted the sights. You can see that if the sight would have been adjusted properly the results would have been more hits in the paper plate.
Here is a target shot at 50 yards. I didn't change the back paper but just put a new paper plate on it. I got 5 hits twice and 9 hits once. I believe this will do as the rest were very evenly spaced within close proximity. I feel confident in being able to get a quick follow up shot, which at these ranges is a good idea. If he quivers he'll get another and quick.
To sum it up. I've settled on the Carlson's .680 choke and the 3" HD BB's.
On another note I shot all these while resting on shooting sticks and sitting on a folding chair. The 11-87 really absorbs the recoil but I still think I'm gonna be a little sore. I really like this shotgun and load. I'm also tickled that Remington is making an effort to build guns and loads that better suit us predator hunters. I'm aware of some other things they are working on that will be coming out in the not to distant future as well.
Good Hunting, Be Safe, Have Fun and above all God Bless,
Byron /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The first thing you will notice is the new stock design. It's called the "Shur Shot" stock. Being a lefty I was glad to see it is an ambi. Basically it is a pistol grip stock with a high comb to put you at the proper height for the nice fiber optic sights.
The next thing you will notice right away is the extended magazine. This shotgun hold 6 3" shells and 1 in the pipe for a total capacity of 7 (6+1).
It is also drilled and tapped to facilitate a weaver rail that is an optional accessory. This would be cool with a halo sight or EO Tech, but quiet frankly I kinda like the fiber optic sights.
With a front coming through today and the wind blowing in excess of 30 mph, I decided my day would be better spent at the range getting to know this new shotgun rather than trying to call a coyote or two. Plus, tomorrow should be a good day to call and I wanted to get my new shotgun ready.
Remington also sent me some of their new Wingmaster HD loads in BB's and T's. Both in 3".
The 11-87 came with an extended choke marked "Wingmaster HD Turkey/Predator". Calson's Chokes also sent me three different chokes to try, the "Dead Coyote" choke, a .680 and a .670.
With this new shotgun, two loads, and three chokes I had my work cut out.
Most of my shooting was done at 40 yards and once I decided on a choke I backed of to 50 to shoot it three more times for confomation on what I can expect. 50 yards is my self imposed limit as I know the little pellets are running out of steam and getting pretty thin on the target usually by 50.
I won't bore you with all the targets and quiet frankly I'm to tired to try and post them all. What I will show you is the targets shot with the combination I settled on.
I was running out of paper to pattern with so I decided to shoot three shots on each sheet and mark them where I could tell one from the other. The first shot is marked by coloring over the pellet hole in a circle. The second shot is marked by drawing a box around the pellet hole, and the third a triangle. In the center as an aiming point I stapled a 9" paper plate. On the right you can see the pellet count for each shot.
This target is shot with the combination that did the best.
If you will notice the pattern was a little high. The reason soon became evident when I went to adjust the rear sight. After about 30-40 rounds of this HD stuff the sight had moved forward during recoil. I moved it after and shot it in and centered the pattern. I would show you the target but it was a mess as I only changed the paper plate and not the back paper.
This is a target shooting the HD T's through the same choke. Both loads like this choke the best. This was also shot before I re-adjusted the sights. You can see that if the sight would have been adjusted properly the results would have been more hits in the paper plate.
Here is a target shot at 50 yards. I didn't change the back paper but just put a new paper plate on it. I got 5 hits twice and 9 hits once. I believe this will do as the rest were very evenly spaced within close proximity. I feel confident in being able to get a quick follow up shot, which at these ranges is a good idea. If he quivers he'll get another and quick.
To sum it up. I've settled on the Carlson's .680 choke and the 3" HD BB's.
On another note I shot all these while resting on shooting sticks and sitting on a folding chair. The 11-87 really absorbs the recoil but I still think I'm gonna be a little sore. I really like this shotgun and load. I'm also tickled that Remington is making an effort to build guns and loads that better suit us predator hunters. I'm aware of some other things they are working on that will be coming out in the not to distant future as well.
Good Hunting, Be Safe, Have Fun and above all God Bless,
Byron /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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. What I do know for a fact is that the Heavy T's sure will break bones and out penatrate anything I've ever shot through a shotgun. I'm assuming the BB's will do almost as well in the bone breaking and penatrating departments with the added benifit of more potential hits (denser pattern). Time will tell as I do plan on putting to the test.
