redeyeddawg
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I agree with you guys, in that I personally find the idea very distasteful. If I were walking through a mall and saw two guys necking, of course I would find it very disturbing. I also find it disturbing when I see two teens of opposite sexes doing the same thing in public. I also agree with you guys about the over the top, and in your face approach that these groups seem to embrace with their parades and what not. I guess the bottom line, and what keeps me from calling myself an "ultra conservative", is that I accept that these people are still human beings, and as such, deserve the same "rights" as any other human beings. I sure don't believe that homosexuals, either men or women, deserve anything more. As far as the whole gay marriage thing, I first viewed it as an abomination as well. In the religion that I was born into, that's exactly what it was, ironic that as time went on,a widespread occurence of holy men forcing themselves on choirboys would become such a front running topic in my religion. Don't get me wrong, I'm still not pro gay marriage in a religious sense, but I do believe that should they want to form some type of union in a legal sense that would allow them to share in each others benifits; insurance, death benifits, taxes, then it's not up to me, or the govt. to tell them they can't. Just because it's against the laws of the hypocritical religion I was born to, there are plenty of churches out there that will marry them. Either way, it's no skin off my scrotum.
I'm a live and let live, turn the other cheek, kind of guy. I took it as my personal responsibility to raise my son to the best of my abilities. I'd like to think that I taught him tolerance and understanding, regardless of my own personal dislikes. I suppose I could have swept less desireable aspects of life under the carpet, like homosexuality,drug abuse,crooked politicians,racial injustices and a long list of other things, I guess I just thought that to do that would somehow make me less of a man, and less of a father.
I hope if there is a God, that he/she doesn't view my way of dealing with others as equals,my efforts to remain tolerant of others beliefs and values, even when they're complete opposites of my own,and my refusal to adopt a religion that promotes hatred toward any living people, regardless of their beliefs, as being a weakness.Once again, I'm not knocking anyone's personal religious beliefs, if it works for you, go with it. I'd just prefer to wander through life wearing my blinders, and believing that if Jesus Christ did exist, he was probably a pretty tolerant, turn the other cheek, kind of guy.
Mick,
Other than my comments about Phelps my post wasn't from a religious perspective, but from a common sense and historical one. These people are not after equal rights, but special rights. They claim not to have equal rights because they can't marry. They can't marry because the definition of the word would have to be changed to suit them. They aren't being discriminated against here. I don't have the "right" to marry another man and neither do they. We therefore DO have equal rights, correct? Does that mean they aren't human? Of course not. What they do does make them aberrant, to say the least. I don't hate the queers and I don't believe anyone else here does either, but hatred and intolerance of what they do does not make me or anyone else wrong. If Jesus Christ was a tolerant, turn the cheek kind of guy please explain Matthew 7:23 to us- "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
I agree with you guys, in that I personally find the idea very distasteful. If I were walking through a mall and saw two guys necking, of course I would find it very disturbing. I also find it disturbing when I see two teens of opposite sexes doing the same thing in public. I also agree with you guys about the over the top, and in your face approach that these groups seem to embrace with their parades and what not. I guess the bottom line, and what keeps me from calling myself an "ultra conservative", is that I accept that these people are still human beings, and as such, deserve the same "rights" as any other human beings. I sure don't believe that homosexuals, either men or women, deserve anything more. As far as the whole gay marriage thing, I first viewed it as an abomination as well. In the religion that I was born into, that's exactly what it was, ironic that as time went on,a widespread occurence of holy men forcing themselves on choirboys would become such a front running topic in my religion. Don't get me wrong, I'm still not pro gay marriage in a religious sense, but I do believe that should they want to form some type of union in a legal sense that would allow them to share in each others benifits; insurance, death benifits, taxes, then it's not up to me, or the govt. to tell them they can't. Just because it's against the laws of the hypocritical religion I was born to, there are plenty of churches out there that will marry them. Either way, it's no skin off my scrotum.
I'm a live and let live, turn the other cheek, kind of guy. I took it as my personal responsibility to raise my son to the best of my abilities. I'd like to think that I taught him tolerance and understanding, regardless of my own personal dislikes. I suppose I could have swept less desireable aspects of life under the carpet, like homosexuality,drug abuse,crooked politicians,racial injustices and a long list of other things, I guess I just thought that to do that would somehow make me less of a man, and less of a father.
I hope if there is a God, that he/she doesn't view my way of dealing with others as equals,my efforts to remain tolerant of others beliefs and values, even when they're complete opposites of my own,and my refusal to adopt a religion that promotes hatred toward any living people, regardless of their beliefs, as being a weakness.Once again, I'm not knocking anyone's personal religious beliefs, if it works for you, go with it. I'd just prefer to wander through life wearing my blinders, and believing that if Jesus Christ did exist, he was probably a pretty tolerant, turn the other cheek, kind of guy.
Mick,
Other than my comments about Phelps my post wasn't from a religious perspective, but from a common sense and historical one. These people are not after equal rights, but special rights. They claim not to have equal rights because they can't marry. They can't marry because the definition of the word would have to be changed to suit them. They aren't being discriminated against here. I don't have the "right" to marry another man and neither do they. We therefore DO have equal rights, correct? Does that mean they aren't human? Of course not. What they do does make them aberrant, to say the least. I don't hate the queers and I don't believe anyone else here does either, but hatred and intolerance of what they do does not make me or anyone else wrong. If Jesus Christ was a tolerant, turn the cheek kind of guy please explain Matthew 7:23 to us- "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."