Ruger American Experience

thanks for the offer, but i think we've sufficiently cleared the air. no blood no foul and all that
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if i do decide to mess with them i'll happily buy a box myself. as you noted they're pretty economical for .308.

although i may pick up a box just for giggles to see if they cut as clean in cardstock as they do in regular paper. I'm in the Dundee store often enough as it is, so i've probably walked past them a bunch of times already. my LR308 seems to prefer 168's more than 150's - at least in a more traditional profile hunting bullet anyway... so if that 2nd digit isnt a 6 or bigger, i usually just move on down the isle on those rare occasions i'm actually browsing for loaded ammo and not across the main isle oogling reloading components.
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it'll be additionally curious to see if they feed ok in an ar308 platform or if that shoulder causes issues on the feed ramps going between the lugs.
 

Yea, I'm not sure about how they might feed in an AR. You could perhaps load them one at a time, but that wouldn't be worth much unless you shoot them for the fun of it and to see how they cut paper.

I used a regular piece of computer paper attached to a cardboard box for a backing. It was a measured 94 yards from shooter to target.

Good shooting.
 
it would be pure experimentation purposes.

i have hunting and target loads for my 16" LR308 upper and have two full ladders of 186 amax ready to go (varget and H4895) when the weather warms up for my new 20" Mega barreled upper. i built late last summer, then got swamped with work & hunting season and ran out of load developement weather.

i limit my load testing to 68F+ to prevent summer over pressure issues. so that typically gives me around 6 months up here to get my load testing stuff done. then i spend my winters doing brass prep. i hope my mega barrel likes the 168's as much as the 16" dpms barrel does (they're both 10 twists) but if not ive got a box of 178 amax for it to continue some accuracy testing. the mega build was put together with the pure intent of stretching out and getting comfortable at 500 yds.

i've been deer hunting primarily with my blackout for the last couple years.
 
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Originally Posted By: Tim NeitzkeI wish I was an hour closer to Dundee. This little outpost in Saginaw really lacks the good stuff.

ya but sometimes they have things that dundee cant keep in stock because they're a little out of the way "outpost" store.

like 1680.

or the velociters and stingers that they had on the shelf monday. just for a couple examples.


same thing goes for the Grandville store. it doesnt see the pressure that dundee does being sammiched right between toledo and detroit.
 
I do recall seeing some ammo with bullets that looked like that. Must have been 35 years ago & I don't recall the brand. never bought any.
 
Originally Posted By: Plant.OneOriginally Posted By: Tim NeitzkeI wish I was an hour closer to Dundee. This little outpost in Saginaw really lacks the good stuff.

ya but sometimes they have things that dundee cant keep in stock because they're a little out of the way "outpost" store.

like 1680.

or the velociters and stingers that they had on the shelf monday. just for a couple examples.


same thing goes for the Grandville store. it doesnt see the pressure that dundee does being sammiched right between toledo and detroit.

True...
Seems like 75% of the stuff I'd like to look at before buying they either don't stock or just don't have.

Normally I just go to Jays in Clare.
 
Originally Posted By: marcoThe stock is what makes the ruger American! That power bedding system is the cats!

Ah...but there's a slight distinction here. The bedding system is what makes the rifle accurate. Not the stock. The bedding can be removed from the stock and put into a different stock.

Originally Posted By: 204 AR
And I didn't think the stock was that bad, especially compared to early injection molded stocks from the 90's. I don't think I'd buy a cheap rifle, just to spend a bunch on aftermarket parts.

Compared to cheap early 90's models yes, not that bad. But that's not really saying much. On mine, I can flex the fore end and make the stock touch the barrel. Definitely not ideal. Plus it just plain doesn't fit me right. Now most would say "just buy a gun that fits you" and I would agree except that I can't find one. The only factory rifle I've ever found that fit me really well was a Sako Finnlight at over $1500! Instead I can put a custom stock on my American and have a fitted rifle for less than $800.

As for all that talk about the trigger being crap...I don't get that. I think the trigger feels very good bordering on excellent for a hunting trigger. It's not going to win benchrest matches but [beeep] what do you want for that price, and who wants a benchrest trigger on a hunting rifle anyway?
 
Originally Posted By: rudymontana6mm06 What was Herters aim for make this type of bullet. More knock down power? Nicer holes in your targets? Rudy

Rudy, I don't know the reason. This article is about as good of information I can find.

http://ammo.com/bullet-type/soft-point-cutting-edge-spce

I don't ever recall seeing a bullet like this until my buddy brought his rifle and ammo out to sight in the other day. That's the only experience I have with it.
 
Originally Posted By: Tim NeitzkeNormally I just go to Jays in Clare.

thats probably the smartest choice for people in that neck of the woods.


best reloading components selection in the state AFAIK - for sure on the powder side of things. even if their primer prices are redonkulus
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i was able to get powder during the shortage and keep reloading when nobody was thanks to Jays.
 
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