SAD NEWS...........Premier Reticle

Originally Posted By: knockemdownOriginally Posted By: 1up5downPersonally I do not think you will hear an official statement. But hey.... what do I know!!
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Dave

So a well respected company known for producing some of the finest riflescopes on the planet AND who also happens to have a build & warranty contract with the United States Marine Corps just closed up shop without a whisper???

Not saying there can't be closed doors or empty parking lots in VA, but don't you think you are jumping the proverbial gun with a post based on heresay?

This is like National Enquirer type rubbish.

And IF it is true, how does it feel to have broken the story on the interweb (again)???
Do you get a prize, or something?

Thanks for nothing.

Wow, don't go getting your panties in a bunch, we are just having a friendly conversation. No one is forcing you to join in or believe us for that matter.

TJ
 
I'm not buying this...I went over to snipershide.com and there is absolutely nothing mentioned about PR closing shop. Go over there and post this thread...Bet you'll have an answer from PR themselves.
 
Originally Posted By: knockemdown

And IF it is true, how does it feel to have broken the story on the interweb (again)???
Do you get a prize, or something?

Thanks for nothing.

If it is true, good on him from letting the shooting community know. What prize are you looking for??
 
Originally Posted By: HuntI'm not buying this...I went over to snipershide.com and there is absolutely nothing mentioned about PR closing shop. Go over there and post this thread...Bet you'll have an answer from PR themselves.

A few weeks ago there was word of it on the hide but it was deleted I believe.

Sucks if it's true because it's an American company. But I am not sure how you stay in business selling scopes at the prices they do. Only a small percentage of the population wants a $3000 scope and of those who do only a smaller percentage need one. Then they have to compete with companies the likes of S&B, Zeiss-Hensoldt etc. who've been at this a long time.

If they are indeed going under I believe they fell on their own sword by pricing themselves out. That's even taking the "Hunter" and "Light Tactical" lineups in to account.

I hope it's a rumor though and nothing more. I also hope they try and offer an affordable scope. The European optics cost so much because of the exchange rate.
 
Originally Posted By: SShooterZOriginally Posted By: knockemdown

And IF it is true, how does it feel to have broken the story on the interweb (again)???
Do you get a prize, or something?

Thanks for nothing.

If it is true, good on him from letting the shooting community know. What prize are you looking for??

sir, I'm not looking for ANYTHING. But I AM trying to keep the good name of a company from being dragged through the internet mud before any official information from a reliable source has been cited.

Is that so hard to comprehend?
 
Guys, In an attempt to settle the controversy, I picked up the phone, after looking up the Corporate Website (Premier Reticles, LTD) and called their corporate number...540-868-2044...

After the standard recorded directory, the call kicked over to another recorded voice mail where you leave your name and number and "someone will return your call"....We'll see what happens, or is said if they do...

It's very seldom that this happens with a published corporate number, since most corporations are concerned about stockholders or investors attempting to reach the company...

The next call will be to U S Optics, since Premier Reticles has a contract with them for one of their patents...But they don't open until 9AM PST...another hour and half for me...
 
Old T,
There was a post on another forum about this a few weeks back. It was addressed & the post subsequently squashed. Considering that, this is "old" breaking news.
Why anyone wants to keep this thread going is beyond me? Aside from begin a bunch of gossip-hoo-aaas, that is...

Honestly, if there is some truth to rumors, but there hasn't yet been any "official notice", do you think you (or anyone else) is gonna get a straight answer over the phone?

And, for the record, the connection between US Optics & Premier is solely based on the licensed use of USO's MTC (more tactile clicks) turret design. In reality, they are direct competitors in the optics market. But I still doubt that anyone at USO would spill beans. Kind of a respect thing, I'd imagine?

Anyhoo, keep on diggin' in the dirt
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Heck, you could call the USMC while yer at it. After all, they've got a contract with Premier too.

Then let us all know, surely the gossip mongers are just dying to hear the latest!!!
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The fact that it is hush hush has piqued my curiosity. When one plops several grand for a scope, wouldn't you want to know that you either have a lifetime warranty or just some glass and metal?
 
Why not go to the hide and send Plange a pm and see what answer you get then, I read the post on the hide a couple weeks ago and it was stated at that time the rumor wasnt true. CSTACTICAL seems to move alot of their stuff so that might be a worth while contact also.
 
Originally Posted By: 1badsheeWhy not go to the hide and send Plange a pm and see what answer you get then, I read the post on the hide a couple weeks ago and it was stated at that time the rumor wasnt true. CSTACTICAL seems to move alot of their stuff so that might be a worth while contact also.

I just pm'd him on SH.
 
I have called and left messages with phone number to call me back, however I have not been called back at this time. This still does not mean they are closed, perhaps busy?
 
Originally Posted By: 1badsheeWhy not go to the hide and send Plange a pm and see what answer you get then, I read the post on the hide a couple weeks ago and it was stated at that time the rumor wasnt true. CSTACTICAL seems to move alot of their stuff so that might be a worth while contact also.

1bad,
You'd think any self-respecting & concerned shooter/sportsman would do a good bit intel gathering on their own before starting, or perpetuating in a friggin' online gossip column?

THAT is the bone in my craw.

So now Paul & the people @ Premier have to field countless stooooopid questions from every angle because of this stooooopid, worthless internet thread...

Nice job, fellas.

SAD NEWS is that this thread was even started. Sad...






 
I finally was able to reach someone at PR today. had to do it via email. Right now they are undergoing some big changes. That is why it is hard to reach them by phone. I was told what some of these changes might be but I will not discuss.
there will be an update posted on the hide in the near future from the staff at Premier.
I believe they are working, just at a really reduced staff until these changes are implemented. I'm sure these changes are being made to ensure their success in the high end military/civilian optics market place.

I want to publicly apologize to the staff at Premier,members of PM, and anybody else that thread has affected. It was NOT my intention at all to tarnish or hurt PR or it's staff even though that is what I have done. And for that I am truly sorry!
Believe me, I have learned my lesson!!!!

Knockem, would you please post this up on the hide. I am not a member there. Probably a good thing too. lol

dave
 
Originally Posted By: 1up5downI finally was able to reach someone at PR today. had to do it via email. Right now they are undergoing some big changes. That is why it is hard to reach them by phone. I was told what some of these changes might be but I will not discuss.
there will be an update posted on the hide in the near future from the staff at Premier.
I believe they are working, just at a really reduced staff until these changes are implemented. I'm sure these changes are being made to ensure their success in the high end military/civilian optics market place.

I want to publicly apologize to the staff at Premier,members of PM, and anybody else that thread has affected. It was NOT my intention at all to tarnish or hurt PR or it's staff even though that is what I have done. And for that I am truly sorry!
Believe me, I have learned my lesson!!!!

Knockem, would you please post this up on the hide. I am not a member there. Probably a good thing too. lol

dave



Yep, the Hide thread is locked, but the link to this one remains. So whomever uses it can read your words.

Sorry if I came across as a dikkhedd to make a point, but there didn't seem anyone around these parts to put the kabosh on the nonsense. So, being I'm a Premier fan & user, I took it to task. I have nothing but good things to say about my dealings with Premier and friggin' love their scopes, so I felt they deserved at least that much...

No hard feelings.
 
Originally Posted By: knockemdownSorry if I came across as a dikkhedd to make a point..........

No hard feelings.

Yes, you did come across as a dikkhead!
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But, no hard feeling on my part either.
I sent you a pm.
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