sako A7
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Originally Posted By: warpig602I dont have an A7, but if it wont group 5 under an inch, send it back as they are guaranteed to shoot at least that.
Problem can be dealing with Beretta customer service if you are not happy and from my understanding, you do not know what ammo Sako uses to achieve their test groups. However, everyone I have talked to has been pleased with with the accuracy of their A7's.
Problem can be dealing with Beretta customer service if you are not happy and from my understanding, you do not know what ammo Sako uses to achieve their test groups. However, everyone I have talked to has been pleased with with the accuracy of their A7's.
tripod3
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I have dealt with Beretta customer service and had mild concerns from all the internet stories. Usually where there is smoke you know.
Well I have two identical Sakos that had a magazine problem. I shipped the rifles insured and they replaced parts and gave me a check reimbursing my costs including insurance.
No doubt there are experiences on both ends of the spectrum.
Although we don't know what Sako uses to qualify accuracy you rarely hear of a bad shooter. Actually almost always hear great reports.
Try sending firearms back to some other makers and find out that 3inch accuracy is acceptable. Or worse the gun shoots even worse on return.
Sako is good stuff. To get better you may have to step up to Sauer.
Well I have two identical Sakos that had a magazine problem. I shipped the rifles insured and they replaced parts and gave me a check reimbursing my costs including insurance.
No doubt there are experiences on both ends of the spectrum.
Although we don't know what Sako uses to qualify accuracy you rarely hear of a bad shooter. Actually almost always hear great reports.
Try sending firearms back to some other makers and find out that 3inch accuracy is acceptable. Or worse the gun shoots even worse on return.
Sako is good stuff. To get better you may have to step up to Sauer.
TripleDeuce660
Active member
Why get the a-7? The tikka will probably shoot just as good and cost less..... The magic is in the sako barrel! Only real benefit is the metal feed lips on the A-7 mag.
If you want a sako, you want the 85! Then, if you consider the 85 you have to look at the kimber!
If you want a sako, you want the 85! Then, if you consider the 85 you have to look at the kimber!
SShooterZ
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Originally Posted By: bigtommyHas anyone had any expeirence with this gun. It is one of the guns I am looking at. Reviews have been good but I have never heard from anyone who owns one. If so what kind of accuracy are you getting and how do you like it overall.
So to answer your question, no.
But at least you got a lot of opinions on other stuff.
So to answer your question, no.
But at least you got a lot of opinions on other stuff.
Coyotejunki
Well-known member
Quote:Go on any forum, ask about finding a good steak house and you'll eventually learn that you really want pork chops.
All day long, if you do your part.
OK, Here is some second hand knowledge.
I was going to buy an A7, because I own several older Sako's and like them, but was convince by a friend not to get the A7, he had problems with his. though he really recommended the Tikka. There, hope that helps.
All day long, if you do your part.
OK, Here is some second hand knowledge.
I was going to buy an A7, because I own several older Sako's and like them, but was convince by a friend not to get the A7, he had problems with his. though he really recommended the Tikka. There, hope that helps.
Winny Fan
New member
Look at them and if you like it, buy one.
Keep in mind that every rifle mentioned so far that you didn't know you wanted, as well as the one you mentioned, are all factory rifles. Some will shoot great and some won't. And results doesn't always follow along with the maker name. They all make a few bad ones. That's just the nature of factory rifles, cars, whatever............
I saw the perfect response to one of these "What should I get" threads on another forum a few months ago. It probably applies to the "Brand X vs Brand Y" rifle threads too. The response, after maybe 30 options had been suggested by the various posters - none of which the OP asked about - was, "I like bacon".
Keep in mind that every rifle mentioned so far that you didn't know you wanted, as well as the one you mentioned, are all factory rifles. Some will shoot great and some won't. And results doesn't always follow along with the maker name. They all make a few bad ones. That's just the nature of factory rifles, cars, whatever............
I saw the perfect response to one of these "What should I get" threads on another forum a few months ago. It probably applies to the "Brand X vs Brand Y" rifle threads too. The response, after maybe 30 options had been suggested by the various posters - none of which the OP asked about - was, "I like bacon".
tripod3
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I have had a number of tikkas also. All shot well. I have considered the A7 since it can be had for nearly Tikka price.
I have seen them new on Gunbroker from $520 and up. Seems like about $670 is an average price.
The A7 does have a few features above the Tikka that are certainly worth mentioning.
I have seen them new on Gunbroker from $520 and up. Seems like about $670 is an average price.
The A7 does have a few features above the Tikka that are certainly worth mentioning.
If you're getting a Sako make sure it hasn't been modified. Sako rifles left as the factory made them shoot very well. I've owned 5 of them and loved every one of them. I currently have two. I've killed far more coyotes, fox and bobcats with a Sako Forester 22-250 than anything else and not just a few. Next down would be a Sako Forester 243.
BTW.......Sako uses Sako ammunition in testing it's firearms. Sako ammo is made by Federal. It's difficult to get Sako ammo in the US.
BTW.......Sako uses Sako ammunition in testing it's firearms. Sako ammo is made by Federal. It's difficult to get Sako ammo in the US.
Noveske Crusader
New member
I don't know about the A7, but I own one of the very first SAKO 75 Stainless Synthetic in .300 Win. Mag. and let me tell you it is by far the greatest firearm you could ever own.
Their Stainless is high grade, won't pit or rust...A buddy of mine bought a Browning stalker it was full of rust pits after 6 months...I rarely clean mine... I'm a trapper and I beat the crap out of that thing and drag it through [beeep].
The clip is super heavy duty stainless with one round more than anybody else, and with the most positive clip/release in the industry...won't stick, bind or fail to lock or release.
Scope mounts are part of the receiver...Scope never moves...
I carry mine by my 1.5 x 5 Leupold VX 111 scope tube....
The pistol grip has a palm swell, rubber inlayed grips, forearm ...formed fit to the hands of the shooter.
That rifle is deadly accurate...
My first time out with reloads I put 5 shots in a 2" circle @ 200 yards laying down uncomfortably on gravel in a pit.
I shot a calf moose offhand /standing @ 150 yards with his head sticking partly through the brush.
Shot # 1 went through his ear, he turned his head and shot # 2 went through the bridge of his nose, third shot got him square between his eyes...
Then there's the time I spotted a bear sitting on top of a broken jack pine, believe it or not...about 50 feet up @ 250 yards...1st shot got him square between the eyes....WICKEDLY ACCURATE RIFLE!!!!!
SAKO is #1.
Their Stainless is high grade, won't pit or rust...A buddy of mine bought a Browning stalker it was full of rust pits after 6 months...I rarely clean mine... I'm a trapper and I beat the crap out of that thing and drag it through [beeep].
The clip is super heavy duty stainless with one round more than anybody else, and with the most positive clip/release in the industry...won't stick, bind or fail to lock or release.
Scope mounts are part of the receiver...Scope never moves...
I carry mine by my 1.5 x 5 Leupold VX 111 scope tube....
The pistol grip has a palm swell, rubber inlayed grips, forearm ...formed fit to the hands of the shooter.
That rifle is deadly accurate...
My first time out with reloads I put 5 shots in a 2" circle @ 200 yards laying down uncomfortably on gravel in a pit.
I shot a calf moose offhand /standing @ 150 yards with his head sticking partly through the brush.
Shot # 1 went through his ear, he turned his head and shot # 2 went through the bridge of his nose, third shot got him square between his eyes...
Then there's the time I spotted a bear sitting on top of a broken jack pine, believe it or not...about 50 feet up @ 250 yards...1st shot got him square between the eyes....WICKEDLY ACCURATE RIFLE!!!!!
SAKO is #1.
CatShooter
New member
Originally Posted By: pk1
"BTW.... Sako ammo is made by Federal. It's difficult to get Sako ammo in the US."
Are you sure about that???
Why would Sako have Federal make their ammo and brass, when Lapua is right down the block and makes the finest ammo and brass in the world - people will pay a premium for Sako brass...
... and Federal is half way around the world, and has a so-so to mediocre reputation???
I give Federal brass away.
I have 200 new Sako .22 PPC cases, and there is absolutely no way Federal made those cases.
I just went to the Sako website:
http://www.sako.fi/cartridges.php
... and it looks like they make their own ammo and cases.
.
"BTW.... Sako ammo is made by Federal. It's difficult to get Sako ammo in the US."
Are you sure about that???
Why would Sako have Federal make their ammo and brass, when Lapua is right down the block and makes the finest ammo and brass in the world - people will pay a premium for Sako brass...
... and Federal is half way around the world, and has a so-so to mediocre reputation???
I give Federal brass away.
I have 200 new Sako .22 PPC cases, and there is absolutely no way Federal made those cases.
I just went to the Sako website:
http://www.sako.fi/cartridges.php
... and it looks like they make their own ammo and cases.
.
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Originally Posted By: CatShooterOriginally Posted By: pk1
"BTW.... Sako ammo is made by Federal. It's difficult to get Sako ammo in the US."
Are you sure about that???
Why would Sako have Federal make their ammo and brass, when Lapua is right down the block and makes the finest ammo and brass in the world - people will pay a premium for Sako brass...
... and Federal is half way around the world, and has a so-so to mediocre reputation???
I give Federal brass away.
I have 200 new Sako .22 PPC cases, and there is absolutely no way Federal made those cases.
I just went to the Sako website:
http://www.sako.fi/cartridges.php
... and it looks like they make their own ammo and cases.
.
How can I argue with the most technically informed guy on the site? Or at least thinks he is.
Yes.....I'm positive.
"BTW.... Sako ammo is made by Federal. It's difficult to get Sako ammo in the US."
Are you sure about that???
Why would Sako have Federal make their ammo and brass, when Lapua is right down the block and makes the finest ammo and brass in the world - people will pay a premium for Sako brass...
... and Federal is half way around the world, and has a so-so to mediocre reputation???
I give Federal brass away.
I have 200 new Sako .22 PPC cases, and there is absolutely no way Federal made those cases.
I just went to the Sako website:
http://www.sako.fi/cartridges.php
... and it looks like they make their own ammo and cases.
.
How can I argue with the most technically informed guy on the site? Or at least thinks he is.
Yes.....I'm positive.
SShooterZ
New member
Originally Posted By: pk1
How can I argue with the most technically informed guy on the site? Or at least thinks he is.
Yes.....I'm positive.
Do they make the ammo, or the brass?
Originally Posted By: pk1I have it on good authority that Federal makes Sako brass. At Sako's website they have a reloading table showing the recipes for reloading with their components.
The unfortunate thing is that the only way to obtain Federal brass is to get it once fired or buy new Federal ammo and reload the brass. Hardly worth the trouble.
http://www.sakocollectors.com/forum/show...2cf68c75b53eabd
Just wondering...
How can I argue with the most technically informed guy on the site? Or at least thinks he is.
Yes.....I'm positive.
Do they make the ammo, or the brass?
Originally Posted By: pk1I have it on good authority that Federal makes Sako brass. At Sako's website they have a reloading table showing the recipes for reloading with their components.
The unfortunate thing is that the only way to obtain Federal brass is to get it once fired or buy new Federal ammo and reload the brass. Hardly worth the trouble.
http://www.sakocollectors.com/forum/show...2cf68c75b53eabd
Just wondering...
According to a friend who lives in Finland and has been in the Sako factory they manufacture loaded ammo. He said they have pallets of ammo in the warehouse with Federal stamped on the shipping cartons but Sako ammo inside. I have this from more than one source. Sako does not make this knowledge public.
This is not to say that Federal ammo and Sako ammo are the same. I'm only guessing but I would imagine Federal is making the ammo to Sako's specifications.
Firearms International imported Sako rifles into the US up until the early 70's when Garcia bought them out.Back then Sako ammo was available in most big gun shops. A friend of mine was a distributor for Sako in the 60's and I got my rifles and ammo from him. Beretta is the current importer for Sako into the US these days and they have no interest in importing the ammo. Back in the 60's I bought Sako ammo and after it was fired I reloaded the cases with IMR 4895 and a Sierra 52 grain BTHP which I bought as factory seconds at the Sierra plant in Santa Fe Springs. They were a couple of blocks south of where I worked.
I cut my teeth predator hunting with a Sako Forester 243 back in the early 60's and IMO there is no better factory made rifle. That, of course, is arguable.
This is not to say that Federal ammo and Sako ammo are the same. I'm only guessing but I would imagine Federal is making the ammo to Sako's specifications.
Firearms International imported Sako rifles into the US up until the early 70's when Garcia bought them out.Back then Sako ammo was available in most big gun shops. A friend of mine was a distributor for Sako in the 60's and I got my rifles and ammo from him. Beretta is the current importer for Sako into the US these days and they have no interest in importing the ammo. Back in the 60's I bought Sako ammo and after it was fired I reloaded the cases with IMR 4895 and a Sierra 52 grain BTHP which I bought as factory seconds at the Sierra plant in Santa Fe Springs. They were a couple of blocks south of where I worked.
I cut my teeth predator hunting with a Sako Forester 243 back in the early 60's and IMO there is no better factory made rifle. That, of course, is arguable.
I own a Sako A7 Stainless 22-250. It shoots awesome. My brother has the same thing in the Tikka T3. His Tikka shoots really well also. I do like the mag release on the A7 better, the steel feed lips on the mags on the A7, and the third bolt lug on the A7. I'm extremely happy with mine. I was always a Remington guy, still am at heart, but I own the A7 22-250 for coyotes and the A7 Tecomate 300WSM for whitetail/out west trips. Both shoot well under an inch at 100 yards. My 300WSM A7 shoots .25" groups at 100 yards. My 22-250 A7 shoots .5" groups. I reload and am still trying to tighten the 250 up some. I have a lot of bullets and powder I'm trying. The other nice thing about the A7 22-250 is that the magazine allows you to shoot very long cartridges. Your Over All Length won't be dictated by the magazine size in this rifle. One more point on the A7 22-250, it will stabilize the Nosler Partition 60 gr bullet with the 1:14" twist rate. Mine does very nicely.