Savage Arms in trouble?
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tripod3
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Savage parent company, Vista Outdoor is looking to distance themselves and sell by 2020.
https://www.daytondailynews.com/business...B0wfL7hRrnXJlI/
https://www.masslive.com/business-news/i...ale_in_cor.html
https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/vista-outdoors-putting-savage-arms-stevens-brands-up-for-sale/
https://www.daytondailynews.com/business...B0wfL7hRrnXJlI/
https://www.masslive.com/business-news/i...ale_in_cor.html
https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/vista-outdoors-putting-savage-arms-stevens-brands-up-for-sale/
Savage's parent company, Vista, who makes brands like Camelbak, wanted to sell off Savage to another company. It might be due to the down turn in the firearms market or the pressure from hippy dippy anti-gunners pushing them to dump them off.
Supposedly they are "entertaining" offers and might have an "auction" soon. Supposedly they are going to announce something in March.
Supposedly they are "entertaining" offers and might have an "auction" soon. Supposedly they are going to announce something in March.
Bowhunt
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Dropping them because of "pressure from hippy dippy anti-gunners"? Well that makes perfect sense......since most gun crimes and violence involve a Savage model 110 chambered in 270 Win. Rediculous! (Not that you suggested that might be the case......but if it actually is the case) I certainly hope that it is for financial reasons unrelated to anything "anti gun". I can't see how it would be, considering Vista doesn't plan to abandon the core of their business, which is ammunition manufacturing. Also I hope that if they are sold.....that they are bought buy an american company that plans to produce the same or better quality product.
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Originally Posted By: BowhuntDropping them because of "pressure from hippy dippy anti-gunners"? Well that makes perfect sense......since most gun crimes and violence involve a Savage model 110 chambered in 270 Win. Rediculous! (Not that you suggested that might be the case......but if it actually is the case) I certainly hope that it is for financial reasons unrelated to anything "anti gun". I can't see how it would be, considering Vista doesn't plan to abandon the core of their business, which is ammunition manufacturing. Also I hope that if they are sold.....that they are bought buy an american company that plans to produce the same or better quality product.
Yeah, we know how "rational" those anti-gunners are. I hope that they continue the tradition of making good quality, reasonably priced firearms. But you never can tell.
Yeah, we know how "rational" those anti-gunners are. I hope that they continue the tradition of making good quality, reasonably priced firearms. But you never can tell.
Originally Posted By: biggen0_8Let's pray Remington doesn't buy them.
You know, that was my first (nasty) thought!
I have two 99’s a 300 sav and a 243 win both with fixed rotary internal magazines. I pondered a detachable magazine version at my local enabler but though they were reselling it they also scared me off from it because of the issues they have.
We can hope for the return of such craftsmanship but I fear the only way we can get it is to find an original specimen in good shape and latch onto it.
Three44s
You know, that was my first (nasty) thought!
I have two 99’s a 300 sav and a 243 win both with fixed rotary internal magazines. I pondered a detachable magazine version at my local enabler but though they were reselling it they also scared me off from it because of the issues they have.
We can hope for the return of such craftsmanship but I fear the only way we can get it is to find an original specimen in good shape and latch onto it.
Three44s
Originally Posted By: pyscodogI can't say if its pressure from the anti's or financial trouble. From what little I read, sounded more like pressure. I just hope whoever buys Savage doesn't lesson the quality.
Bringing the 99 back would be great to if they don't put it in a cheap azz plastic stock.
Yeah, it kind of looks like a combination of things.
I hate to see corporations fold to pressure, but we know how that goes.
Remington Outdoor Company, formerly Freedom Group, has floundered for quite a while. That's what happens when non-hunters/sportsmen, corporate types think that a degree means they know something about their product/industry.
They are by no means alone in this. The current Apple is a great example of a wanna-be who thinks that he can pretend to be a visionary and changing color/screen size is his idea of an "innovation."
There are plenty of examples of smart people running companies where they know little about the product or industry but they know people and trust those in the know.
Bringing the 99 back would be great to if they don't put it in a cheap azz plastic stock.
Yeah, it kind of looks like a combination of things.
I hate to see corporations fold to pressure, but we know how that goes.
Remington Outdoor Company, formerly Freedom Group, has floundered for quite a while. That's what happens when non-hunters/sportsmen, corporate types think that a degree means they know something about their product/industry.
They are by no means alone in this. The current Apple is a great example of a wanna-be who thinks that he can pretend to be a visionary and changing color/screen size is his idea of an "innovation."
There are plenty of examples of smart people running companies where they know little about the product or industry but they know people and trust those in the know.
Originally Posted By: RePeteOriginally Posted By: EMP3Bring back the Model 99. That was one heck of a rifle.
They'd have to sell em for a couple grand to match the quality of the originals and even then finding people with the skills to build em wold be near impossible.
You're right on target.
I've yet to read anything negative about Savage's bolt action rifles. In fact, everything I've read about them has been positive, Savage rifles are unbelievably accurate.
The Model 99 was one heck of an excellent rifle. If only I had brains when they'd of done me good ;-)
They'd have to sell em for a couple grand to match the quality of the originals and even then finding people with the skills to build em wold be near impossible.
You're right on target.
I've yet to read anything negative about Savage's bolt action rifles. In fact, everything I've read about them has been positive, Savage rifles are unbelievably accurate.
The Model 99 was one heck of an excellent rifle. If only I had brains when they'd of done me good ;-)
jcs271
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Originally Posted By: BowhuntDropping them because of "pressure from hippy dippy anti-gunners"? Well that makes perfect sense......since most gun crimes and violence involve a Savage model 110 chambered in 270 Win. Rediculous! (Not that you suggested that might be the case......but if it actually is the case) I certainly hope that it is for financial reasons unrelated to anything "anti gun". I can't see how it would be, considering Vista doesn't plan to abandon the core of their business, which is ammunition manufacturing. Also I hope that if they are sold.....that they are bought buy an american company that plans to produce the same or better quality product.
The issue is not the 110 models, it's the AR-15s. Vista outdoors got lots of bad press and their products from CamelBak to bike parts have actually been blocked from a number of outdoor retailers the big one being REI. This summer REI put out a briefing paper on it and it was specifically because of vista Outdoors AR-15 line.
The issue is not the 110 models, it's the AR-15s. Vista outdoors got lots of bad press and their products from CamelBak to bike parts have actually been blocked from a number of outdoor retailers the big one being REI. This summer REI put out a briefing paper on it and it was specifically because of vista Outdoors AR-15 line.
Bowhunt
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Originally Posted By: jcs271Originally Posted By: BowhuntDropping them because of "pressure from hippy dippy anti-gunners"? Well that makes perfect sense......since most gun crimes and violence involve a Savage model 110 chambered in 270 Win. Rediculous! (Not that you suggested that might be the case......but if it actually is the case) I certainly hope that it is for financial reasons unrelated to anything "anti gun". I can't see how it would be, considering Vista doesn't plan to abandon the core of their business, which is ammunition manufacturing. Also I hope that if they are sold.....that they are bought buy an american company that plans to produce the same or better quality product.
The issue is not the 110 models, it's the AR-15s. Vista outdoors got lots of bad press and their products from CamelBak to bike parts have actually been blocked from a number of outdoor retailers the big one being REI. This summer REI put out a briefing paper on it and it was specifically because of vista Outdoors AR-15 line.
You would think "outdoor retailers" would support all aspects of outdoor sports.
The issue is not the 110 models, it's the AR-15s. Vista outdoors got lots of bad press and their products from CamelBak to bike parts have actually been blocked from a number of outdoor retailers the big one being REI. This summer REI put out a briefing paper on it and it was specifically because of vista Outdoors AR-15 line.
You would think "outdoor retailers" would support all aspects of outdoor sports.
TripleDeuce660
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Screw REI anyways. I will not shop at their commie stores. They donate tons of money to close off access to public lands.
In my mind, Savage has been going soft trying to make the PC police happy since they got rid of the indian head logo. I made sure to get myself a tshirt with the logo while I still can.
In my mind, Savage has been going soft trying to make the PC police happy since they got rid of the indian head logo. I made sure to get myself a tshirt with the logo while I still can.
Bowhunt
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Originally Posted By: TripleDeuce660Screw REI anyways. I will not shop at their commie stores. They donate tons of money to close off access to public lands.
In my mind, Savage has been going soft trying to make the PC police happy since they got rid of the indian head logo. I made sure to get myself a tshirt with the logo while I still can.
AMEN Brother!!!
In my mind, Savage has been going soft trying to make the PC police happy since they got rid of the indian head logo. I made sure to get myself a tshirt with the logo while I still can.
AMEN Brother!!!
AWS
Custom Accessory Maker & Retired PM Staff
I is sad in this day and age that that people think they can try and make me believe in what THEY believe and take no consideration on how I think.
As for the 99 it is a heck of a rifle I've owned them in .243, 25-35, 250-3000, 300 Sav, and 375 Win. I still have the 308(my nephew uses it for deer hunting and the 375 Win(one of my favorites for still hunting and tracking deer in the northern forests. Most of the old cartridges 99's I sold after my cataract surgery and couldn't shoot open sights so I sold them to collectors instead of drill and tapping them.
The DM version was built to try and keep the costs down and they did try and build them in Spain where they never could get the quality control right.
As for the 99 it is a heck of a rifle I've owned them in .243, 25-35, 250-3000, 300 Sav, and 375 Win. I still have the 308(my nephew uses it for deer hunting and the 375 Win(one of my favorites for still hunting and tracking deer in the northern forests. Most of the old cartridges 99's I sold after my cataract surgery and couldn't shoot open sights so I sold them to collectors instead of drill and tapping them.
The DM version was built to try and keep the costs down and they did try and build them in Spain where they never could get the quality control right.