Savage model 12....firing pin.??

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sully2

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For a friend of mine. He's been shooting this m12 ( 204 caliber) for the last few months and it seems to work just fine...and accurate also.

Lately shooting reloaded ammo and using CCI primers ( sm rifle) a round wouldnt go off..?? But if he chambered it a second time and the firing pin hit it...it WOULD go off..??

Yesterday he's out in is side yard shooting...and some dont fire...even a second "go round"..? He goes inside...gets some factory new Federals...and THEY DONT GO OFF EITHER?????

Upon removing the bolt and disassembling it and checking the trigger out to see if it functioned properly...he put everything back in the stock and low and behold...the factory ammo that DIDNT fire before...fired and so did the reloads he couldnt get to go off fired properly.

So what the heck gives with that???
 
What 'I' would do is disassemble the bolt & check out all the parts, clean & reassemble the bolt & try it out. If problem not resolved then go to 'savageshooters.com' & pose that question. A lot of 'xperts' over there.
I would think that it was just dirty.
 
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Originally Posted By: Bob Tobergte What 'I' would do is disassemble the bolt & check out all the parts, clean & reassemble the bolt & try it out. If problem not resolved then go to 'savageshooters.com' & pose that question. A lot of 'xperts' over there.
I would think that it was just dirty.

All ready done that...checked the bolt out thoroughly
 
Originally Posted By: Orneryolfart357Has he got the accutrigger? That will happen if you dont pull the trigger properly. Just an idea.

Is that right??? Hmmm. And what is "properly" if I may ask?
 
If you dont pull both pieces of the trigger at the same time, you can get a missfire. Have him look at his primers. Have they been struck? The Accutrigger, if you pull it from the side without pulling the center piece firmly, will not shoot. Have him look at previously shot rounds and look at the primers when they dont fire.
 
Originally Posted By: Orneryolfart357If you dont pull both pieces of the trigger at the same time, you can get a missfire. Have him look at his primers. Have they been struck? The Accutrigger, if you pull it from the side without pulling the center piece firmly, will not shoot. Have him look at previously shot rounds and look at the primers when they dont fire.

I'll pass this on to him...

One thing he did tell me is that AT TIMES when rounds didnt fire...he would ease the bolt open and could see the end of the firing pin in the hole...not sticking out..but could see it ( hence he thought that was normal..???)

Another thing was that the firing pin had "rub marks" down the length ( at the working end) in one "line" only...like it had rubbed at one place at times ( ??????)

Between factory Federal ammo and his reloads using CCI primers SOME appear to be almost pierced..??....some look more like a normal amount of indentation.....and some look to be barely hit. ( strange to say the least?)
 
I have never had that issue with the accutriggers on 3 of my Savages. Sounds like he had something in it that prevented the complete firing if it works perfect after he took it all apart.
 
If he has the Accutrigger adjusted down in pull weight too far, the spring in the bottom of the trigger can bottom out in the stock. This will cause the misfire just like not properly pulling the Accutrigger.

This happened to me with a Savage 17 hmr I have. I left the trigger as it was and just removed/clearanced a tiny bit of stock material with a 3/8" drill bit. Not much. You don't wanna drill a hole thru your stock. Go easy and check a few times.

Not sure if this is your problem, but it was mine. I bought the rifle second hand from my brother and he had lost the trigger adjustment tool.
 
I have not heard that problem before. I may have a weird issue with my bolt but it's not the firing pin but I think something with the ejector when I fire a round and bring the bolt back the spent case just falls into the magazine. It basically unhooks from the bolt head and falls down so I have to fish it out by hand, and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Any idea what to do here??
 
Got a few buddies that have had that issue. Ended up the firing pin is bent. 3 friends with savages, 3 bent pins. Not bad mouthing savages. Just saying what I have seen.
 
So cleaning the bolt cured a bent firing pin? Im thinking that without knowing what the primer looked like.."was it actually struck" It would be hard to tell. I have read a few posts like this before, wich leads me to believe that it has something to do with the trigger. Looking forward to see what the actual fix was.
 
Originally Posted By: Orneryolfart357So cleaning the bolt cured a bent firing pin? Im thinking that without knowing what the primer looked like.."was it actually struck" It would be hard to tell. I have read a few posts like this before, wich leads me to believe that it has something to do with the trigger. Looking forward to see what the actual fix was.

Not saying it actually CURED his problem...just that after total disassemble and reassemble it functioned properly..??? And he knows what a firing pin strike looks like so I have to believe him when he says they were struck.
 
Originally Posted By: Orneryolfart357So cleaning the bolt cured a bent firing pin? Im thinking that without knowing what the primer looked like.."was it actually struck" It would be hard to tell. I have read a few posts like this before, wich leads me to believe that it has something to do with the trigger. Looking forward to see what the actual fix was.


The 3 I know of the pins were just off enough to make it misfire on a whim. Shoot 2-3 times misfire, misfire twice then shoot. Clean it get 5,10,20 rounds through it and start misfiring. They took em to 2 diff smiths and all they did was replace the pin and now they work. This was in a span of 4 years so after the first one we knew the fix. Only reason it was two diff smiths is that the 3rd one the back of the bolt was cross threaded from the factory and we couldn't get it apart.
 
Originally Posted By: Orneryolfart357I guess that I was lucky.. Mine works fine. Hope his will too.

The thing that has me wondering is how a firing pic can get bent? The bolt had never been taken apart prior to this incident..????
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Don't take much bend to mess it up. Couldn't even really tell they were bent uless you compare then new to the old. Not much play in that little hole it's got to poke through. These ones I was talking about never had been took apart either. Sometimes too tight of a torlerance is a bad thing.
 


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