Say NO to that new COOPER you dreamed of...

1. The guy donated money to Obama. That is a matter of public record and has been posted here.

2. He placed a damage control message on his company's website in which he falsely claimed to have made a single, Internet contribution to Obama, but public records prove he in fact made numerous contributions.

3. His damage control message claimed he has donated to McCain/PALIN, but there is no public record of such donations, so this claim is quite likely false.

4. While it is entirely possible that he may have been misquoted in the newspaper story, the public records don't lie: He HAS donated to Obama and, apparently, has NOT donated to McCain/PALIN as he claimed.

5. Wait for the "truth" to come out? The man has already been caught in several lies, as discussed above. Once a person is caught lying, in my view, they lose their credibility.

Claimbuster, no offense, but I'm not sure what additional "truth" there could be to know, especially since Cooper has been caught in deception, as proved via published public records.

What POSSIBLE reason, ie "truth", is there for a rifle manufacturer to donate to the likes of Obama? To do so is a slap in the face of all who value the 2d Amendment.

No, the outside-sourced facts speak for themselves.

This election is hardball: we're in a make or break struggle for our way of life. ONE Obama US Supreme Court justice appointment--replacing the likes of Kennedy or Scalia, God forbid should one get ill or retire--and you will wave goodbye to the 2d Amendment as it will become collective, NO LONGER INDIVIDUAL. It is THAT serious.

Cooper should have weighed all this before he opened his checkbook to Obama.
 
I can appreciate that and admire you're convictions. I just hope you take it to the full extent and boycott ALL manufacturers of ANY consumable goods who have made campaign contributions to Obama. I just hope Bush's Baked Beans isn't in tomorrow's USA Today as an Obama supporter because I'd hate to give them up! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

PS. I don't own a Cooper rifle.
 
Claimbuster, Java posted the public records of his donations. And his statement that he made about donating twice as much for McCain, well.... nobody can find them I guess. Im betting that donation will be made ASAP when he realizes thats its all on public record! Read all the posts, Java dug this badger out of its hole!!!!
 
My contention is why are we wasting our time and strength attacking Cooper? His $5,000, $10,000 or whatever in contributions doesn't mean squat. If you really cared about this election, you would be e-mailing all your friends, colleagues, associates, acquaintances, etc, etc and telling them the need for voting for the RIGHT candidate.

Why are you wasting valuable time worrying about one gun manufacturer? He only casts one vote and his $$ are like urinating in the ocean. When looking at Obama's war chest Cooper's contributions are insignificant.

Let's focus on the war and not get sidetracked on the skirmish! Let's win this election then we'll deal with Mr. Cooper. If we don't win, well..........

I am suggesting that we take all of this energy and focus it on winning the election. Destroying Cooper does not get the right man in the White House.
 
If you support anything, Cooper! Propose to the people you believe in, but don't blantenly shove your BS in a customers face!! You might lose a little business!

Colorado is a confusing state since I think thers only 100 born in state people there! I'm sure Buster is a transplant also! It happens!!! Funning Ya!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I believe most companies donate to both parties, SOME MORE TO certain parties.

I really hope Coopers heart was in the right place as certain companies and shooters (bolt action manufactures, owners) think there safe. Off course if a ball busting tax comes out on firearms he might as well close up shop as he manufactures a higher end rifle so if say a $1200.00 rifle all of a sudden turns to a $3600.00 rifle you can stick a fork in Cooper, there done for! If they survive they won't need more than 2-3 employee's!
 
Hey Speed, been here 30+ years, by definition, I'm a native.

No BS, just suggesting we stay focused. We have a very short time to get the vote.

Remember the the definition of "divide and conquer"?

In politics and sociology, divide and rule (derived from Latin divide et impera) (also known as divide and conquer) is a combination of political, military and economic strategy of gaining and maintaining power by breaking up larger concentrations of power into chunks that individually have less power than the one implementing the strategy. In reality, it often refers to a strategy where small power groups are prevented from linking up and becoming more powerful, since it is difficult to break up existing power structures.

Let's stay focused. We have a lot of strength, let's use it!
 
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Why are you wasting valuable time worrying about one gun manufacturer? He only casts one vote and his $$ are like urinating in the ocean. When looking at Obama's war chest Cooper's contributions are insignificant.



To you it may seem like a waste of time but others see it as valuable information, myself included. Yes he is only 1 man but all groups start with 1. No Cooper's for me, there are too many great manufacturers out there to purchase from one that doesn't have the same beliefs as it's customer's and is financially backing the 2nd amendment's #1 threat at this time.
 
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." --- Abraham Lincoln

"Civilized man can only keep the peace by subduing his barbarian neighbour." --- Theodore Roosevelt

I think you sent these quotes to the wrong person....I think you meant to send them to Mr. Cooper. I am a cooper owner...and I did purchase in the last year but I will NEVER purchase again....regardless of the outcome of this election. Mr. Cooper forgot who buttered his bread...and for this mistake he should pay the penalty. My focus isn't lost....I understand every vote counts...but he publically opened his big mouth for the opposite team. If he is bold enough to open his mouth to the press I am sure he has expressed his views to his employees. Maybe the few hundred emails he is receiving over this will also send a message to these employees who could be "on the fence". I know that if I worked for Cooper...I would be voting for McCain.
 
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Why are you wasting valuable time worrying about one gun manufacturer? He only casts one vote and his $$ are like urinating in the ocean. When looking at Obama's war chest Cooper's contributions are insignificant.



To you it may seem like a waste of time but others see it as valuable information, myself included. Yes he is only 1 man but all groups start with 1. No Cooper's for me, there are too many great manufacturers out there to purchase from one that doesn't have the same beliefs as it's customer's and is financially backing the 2nd amendment's #1 threat at this time.



TURBO makes a great point. With the internet and various boards/forums you could bust a manufacture in short time!

All one needs to look to in Zumbo, within days he had more headaches than most people in a lifetime. Ole Dan better bust out the checkbook and put alot of 0000"s behind PAY TO THE RNC. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I'm Canadian and emailed him my displeasure of his support for Obama. I was considering buying one of his rifles but will buy something else instead.
 

I've searched everywhere and can't find his contribution to McCain/Palin or to the RNC.

Surely they didn't think they could lie about that did they????
 
Well I was planning a guided hunt to Montana this year.
But after this I think I will boycott anything that comes out of Montana just because Cooper is there. If they can support a company that supports hussain than i can't spend my money in that state.. period.
 
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Well I was planning a guided hunt to Montana this year.
But after this I think I will boycott anything that comes out of Montana just because Cooper is there. If they can support a company that supports hussain than i can't spend my money in that state.. period.



HUH??????? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
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Well I was planning a guided hunt to Montana this year.
But after this I think I will boycott anything that comes out of Montana just because Cooper is there. If they can support a company that supports hussain than i can't spend my money in that state.. period.



HUH??????? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif



I second that motion... Double Huh???? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif


You can hold Dan Cooper responsible for his actions and donations, but you can't hold the whole state of Montana responsible...
... no more than the whole United States can hold YOU responsible for for the fact that 90% of your state of Vermont will vote for Obama, or that judges in your state let child rapist get off with 60 day suspended sentences.

Get real...


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Well I was planning a guided hunt to Montana this year.
But after this I think I will boycott anything that comes out of Montana just because Cooper is there. If they can support a company that supports hussain than i can't spend my money in that state.. period.



I encourage you to reconsider that decision. MT is an incredible place full of great folks AND some fantastic hunting (and fishing), predator, big game--you name it! I really think those of us with a beef here should focus on the offending company, not the state where he happens to be located. MT is actually a pretty conservative place and typically even the Democrats from there support gun rights. We don't want to 'punish' people on our own side! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
This has turned into a witch hunt. Not support anything coming out of Montana? HUH? You guys are starting to sound ridiculous. If you don't like it don't buy his rifles! Come on...
 
Its not so much the donation that hurts but its the publicity that this gives the Obama campaign. Hes already lied about his second amendment stance now a firearms manufacturer is supporting him. If anyone is interested I believe that Wilson Arms supplies his barrels.
 
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Its not so much the donation that hurts but its the publicity that this gives the Obama campaign. Hes already lied about his second amendment stance now a firearms manufacturer is supporting him. If anyone is interested I believe that Wilson Arms supplies his barrels.



I can understand a beef with Cooper, but what does Wilson have to do with this?


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