scent cover haters, think about this..

" it was an I'm not sure bark "

Confratulations on being able to speak dog, Field and Stream."

And.... It wouldn't matter if it was 14,19,42 or 50 seconds.... I bet my OLD partner still wouldn't get a shot off, haha
 
I.m a non believer when it comes to cover scents. You can wash your clothes and you body but as long as you have to breath you're whistling past the graveyard.

We've bone out calling for days. Sleeping in the truck and not bathing during that time. Both of us smoked back then and we still killed coyotes.
 
Originally Posted By: Tbone-AZwhat is missed here, is that the dog had a hard time narrowing in on where the person was..

The challenge here is that a Coyote is skiddish and as soon as it even thinks there is something there, (at least here in AZ) they are gone. They don't have to figure out the box you are in, they just have to see the box, let alone smell it.

But.. Interestingly

Buy the Ozone, build a box or just take a cardboard box and wash it with baking soda, put it in a sealed bag and then do the same with all of your clothes and make sure to bring a solar shower with baking soda with you to the field and bath and change and unwrap the box after you leave the truck and head toward your stand..

Let us know how many coyotes you get.

Kind of impractical if you ask me.

But all of this flys in the face of the long list of trappers that will tell you that as long as you don't pee on the trap it's fine.
There is a guy that i see that traps more than 200 and you can watch his video's and he is litterally smoking while checking traps.


Great idea! Just check out the internet or ask any cat owner and the second you put a box down a cat will be inside it. So not only will I cover my scent, but I will attract bobcats. BRILLIANT!!!

Bottom line, the dog found the man. Yes it slowed the process. But the experiment proved that it did not eliminate the scent, only covered it. it is not a matter of cover scent disbelievers, it is a matter of fact.

Does that mean you should go prancing around your stand prior to calling? Only if someone is there to catch it on video and post it on YouTube. Otherwise your are just unnecessarily bombing your stand in scent which could potentially have a negative effect. But should you isolate yourself in a vacuum tube, eating only tofu for days prior to hunting? Again, only if someone is there to video tape and post to YouTube.

Work with the prevailing winds, reduce the stronger odors, sit still and set your stand up correctly to begin with and you will have more success.
 
To be clear, i am not making fun of cover scents, gadgets and so on..

I tried all that stuff a few years ago. IMO it didn't make a difference..

What did make the difference was tying tooth floss to the end of the barrel, and the antenna of my truck.
When i pull up to an area that i think looks good and i want to make a stand, I can look at the antenna and see the wind. (unwaxed tooth floss is very sensative to wind)
I would then glass where i want to go and try and pick out the spot where i would sit, scan the area for coyotes, and then using the wind indicator on the truck walk out and not cover the area with my scent.
I like to use an e-call becuase it allows me to put the call outside of my scent cone and take advantage by putting it just slightly upwind and out away from me so that a coyote coming to the call and following the scent in will walk broadside to me at perfect shotgun distance. When i set the call down, i spray a very short burst of bunny bomb up in the air. Does it work.. I don't think so, but i have had a few come in and raise their head up and look like they smell something and then charge in.
Camo is nice, but as soon as you move when they are looking your way, you are busted. As soon as they hit your cone, your busted.. I just try and be sneakier then they are. I also only use 20 mule team borax to wash my clothes.. It doesn't brighten them, and gets blood out of camo really well, and kills the bacteria (scent)

in my experience, I found that you will put more fur in the truck, scanning ahead of you, being quiet walking in, and putting the call in places that give you the upper hand, then what you spray on your clothes..
 
The only cover scent I've ever had work is calling with something like a house or farmstead that has a lot of human activity dead upwind of me. Works like a charm.
 
Originally Posted By: 6mm06
I can't say about coyotes, but I will refer to a specific deer incident I personally had one time. I was bowhunting and already had a tree stand in place about 17 feet up. I packed in to the base of the tree, took off my coat, my packpack, bow etc. and laid them on the ground at the tree.

Before entering the woods, I sprayed everything down well with Scent Shield White Lightening, including my pants and boots. I then walked directly to the tree stand maybe 150 to 200 yards away. After placing my screw-in tree steps in the tree, I then gathered up my gear and headed up the tree. I had no more than got up to the stand and hung up everything, when I looked out and saw a deer approached from maybe 100 yards away, in the opposite direction I had walked in.

The deer, to my surprise, walked toward my tree stand, but circled somewhat and began smelling the ground where I had just walked minutes before. It came literally to the base of the tree directly beneath me, nose to the ground where I had laid my coat and backpack. It appeared to know that something was there, but it didn't seem to smell human. I was really amazed.

I have also used Scent Shield on my clothing and boots when walking in to a stand, and had deer come down the path I have walked on and not smell me, or I will say they weren't alarmed. I have had other deer cut my scent many times when I didn't use a scent.

Whether or not a coyote would detect my scent in those cases or not, I can't say. I know that when I go coyote hunting I don't use a scent. Maybe I should. But, when I go deer hunting I do.

Just relating experiences.



You never know... I killed a buck with my bow last year. I killed a buck with my muzzleloader. I got back doored by both of those dang bucks. They both came across my entry trail in to my stand and neither acted the slightest bit disturbed by my scent trail. I wash my clothes in scent free detergent and keep the wind in my favor going in and while on the stand. That's about the extent of my scent control regime. I don't count on every deer reacting the same way and try to plan better but hey, a full freezer says "ya never know." Play the wind to your favor and anything else is gravy.
 
I'm of the camp that believes that if the guy in the box would have shot the dog before it was able to enter his scent trail (i.e. get near the box, or get downwind), the clock would still be running.

After as much time as I've spent training coonhounds, as well as professional SAR & "cadaver dogs," I really can't say that I believe that a tracking test is the same thing as what happens in the field anyway.

In my time working in microbiology labs, we use devices called "laminar flow hoods," basically a box with a purified air inlet that produces a positive "wind" out of the opening. The idea is that it positively displaces any infiltrating/contaminating organism from entering the openings. Use the wind to displace your scent from where your game will be, and you can get as close as you want.
 
A extra minute to shoot?

Most of the coyotes that I call in don't smell me or my e-caller and it doesn't give me a extra minute to shoot.

A minute is a very long time for a coyote to stay still in one spot.

A coyote responding to sounds that you are putting out is on high alert. If a coyote stops you need to squeeze the shot off as quick as you can.
 
Lets not forget the guy sat in all the boxes.I imagine the dog smelled that he had he had been in all the boxes but still able to pick the one one he was in.If a coyote knows you were just there he,s still gone in a heartbeat.
 
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