yotecaller91
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2x7x32mm leupold. Works great at night even with the small lense diameter. No problem picking glowing eyes out with it.
Scope for night hunting ?
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coyotedeathangel
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you guys might think im retarded for using this but I love it and I guess thats what its all about. using what each individual is most comfortable with. I have an ATN 6-18X65 lit reticle. 30mm main tube. Its HUUUGE, and unfortunatly heavy. Its mounted on a Rem 700 VLS in 22-250. I will say one thing about it, This scope SEES at night. 18X all night and just about like daylight too with my light. I had other scopes, with 50-56 MM objectives and 1 inch main tubes and they pretty much sucked. I like to see what Im shooting at and 9 or 10 power was the max I could use at night.I know it has something to do with the exit pupil of the scope but I dont remember the details on that. Then I found this bad boy. They have bigger ones too , 8-24X75, and a 12-36X80 . the latter is designed for the 50 bmg.
goatpacker
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They have bigger ones too , 8-24X75, and a 12-36X80 . the latter is designed for the 50 bmg.
WOW!! Do they make scope rings that tall or do you have to use a 2x4 block and a couple of hose clamps? At the high power you have to have large obj.
They have bigger ones too , 8-24X75, and a 12-36X80 . the latter is designed for the 50 bmg.
WOW!! Do they make scope rings that tall or do you have to use a 2x4 block and a couple of hose clamps? At the high power you have to have large obj.
tgrif
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2x7x32mm leupold. Works great at night even with the small lense diameter. No problem picking glowing eyes out with it.
A couple of months ago, I emailed leupold asking them why they didn't offer a low power large objective scope for low light hunting. They responded with some technical stuff that didn't mean diddly to me but did explain why they didn't offer such a scope and they recommended the exact scope mentioned above.
2x7x32mm leupold. Works great at night even with the small lense diameter. No problem picking glowing eyes out with it.
A couple of months ago, I emailed leupold asking them why they didn't offer a low power large objective scope for low light hunting. They responded with some technical stuff that didn't mean diddly to me but did explain why they didn't offer such a scope and they recommended the exact scope mentioned above.
GEORGE ACKLEY
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Texas, forgetabout it,
get night vision.
day time
night time, leave the lights at home /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
get night vision.
day time
night time, leave the lights at home /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
coyotedeathangel
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nice setup. I like it alot. As for the comment about the rings on the ATN scopes, they come with rings. Super duty heavy steel ones. They are pretty cool too because they have rotatable inserts that when rotated correctly they give you 20 MOA of elevation. pretty cool huh, I dont worry about that on the 22-250, chances of ME hitting something at 800 -1000 yds with that gun is slim. my 300 win mag is a different story though.
EastTXHunter
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I use a leupold VX2 3x9x40 and keep it on 6 power. It works great for me.
oiler
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I like an illuminated crosshair.last year even with my lightforce 170,i had a cote looking at me at 100 yards,had the light on him,put the center crosshair on him,and could not see where the center of the crosshair was,of course i missed outright,just could not see the center of the cross hair was to dark.Mayby a heavy duplex might have helped,any suggesstions,thanks,Oiler,Billy.Still love my 12 gauge for shorter range fox.I like using 1 and 1/2" green glow sticks taped to the tip of my muzzle,hard to see the round bead,it works fantastic,with my light clamped underneath my front of the muzzle.I love the browning hero,throws out 200 lumens on high and 100 on low great light.
Lopedogbrown
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On the other hand the human eye can only utilize so much of that light due to the size that our pupil will open up...
That majic number is about 4 mm. Most people's pupils will only expand to 7-8 mm at most under complete darkness. As soon as they sense light however, they immediately constrict back to the 4 mm (average) size. At least that's what my doctor tells me.
Thus, a 2-7x32 scope should work perfectly well. I have a Burris lighted reticle scope in 1.5-6x26, and on the lowest settings at night, it seems just as bright and works just as well as my Pentax 2.5-10x56 set on 2.5x.
I know this is sort of another subject, but on the other hand, if you are going to be saddling up a PVS-14 or other NV device BEHIND a dayscope for night hunting, you will want the largest exit eye pupil numbered scope you can get your hands on, in my experience. Like in the 20 mm range or more. You can go with less, but will need to throw a lot more IR light on the scene to brighten things up. That's really a whole other subject.
Unfortunately, I've found there's not really a whole lot of selection out there in the really large objective/low magnification line of dayscopes, particularly quality models anyhow. There are a few though.
Another good point brought up in this thread, is the fact that thicker crosshairs are better than thin ones for night calling situations. I certainly agree with that.
On the other hand the human eye can only utilize so much of that light due to the size that our pupil will open up...
That majic number is about 4 mm. Most people's pupils will only expand to 7-8 mm at most under complete darkness. As soon as they sense light however, they immediately constrict back to the 4 mm (average) size. At least that's what my doctor tells me.
Thus, a 2-7x32 scope should work perfectly well. I have a Burris lighted reticle scope in 1.5-6x26, and on the lowest settings at night, it seems just as bright and works just as well as my Pentax 2.5-10x56 set on 2.5x.
I know this is sort of another subject, but on the other hand, if you are going to be saddling up a PVS-14 or other NV device BEHIND a dayscope for night hunting, you will want the largest exit eye pupil numbered scope you can get your hands on, in my experience. Like in the 20 mm range or more. You can go with less, but will need to throw a lot more IR light on the scene to brighten things up. That's really a whole other subject.
Unfortunately, I've found there's not really a whole lot of selection out there in the really large objective/low magnification line of dayscopes, particularly quality models anyhow. There are a few though.
Another good point brought up in this thread, is the fact that thicker crosshairs are better than thin ones for night calling situations. I certainly agree with that.
Hi Tim, the first question I would ask is to what range will you be shooting. There will be a difference in close range shooting and long range (200 yards +) shooting. The second question will be do you use a red lens on your light or will you use a white light. I would suggest a higher magnification and a larger objective lens if you shoot further than 150 yards, and or if you use a red filter. The quality of the lenses will also be a factor. Lopedogbrown had it right with the 7mm of expansion of the pupil that is why most German or European hunters use a 8x56 scope for low light conditions. The formula is you devide the objective lens by the magnification and the closer you get to seven is ideal. The older we get the smaller the expansion of the pupil, so you could work on an average of 5mm for the pupil. (for some light that will be gathered by the scope and age.) The clearest view wil then be 10x50, 9x45, 8x40, 7x35, 6x30 etc. The other factor will be distance. It is more difficult to shoot at 200yrds+ with a 4x magnification than say 6x or 8x. You can test this by taking a coyote skin out at night to 200 yards and test the scope you have with the light you have. Good luck on your choice. I have a saying that goes "what you can't see you can't shoot".
Tim Neitzke
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Lots of good info!
Thanks too all
Tim
Thanks too all
Tim
