Scope reticle re-centering?

pyledriver

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Quite awhile back somebody posted on how to re-center a scope, basically bring the reticles back to zero. I haven't been able to find this post! Anybody remember how to do that? I think I remember some of the basics but it would be really helpful to go over once again as I'm fixin' to do some scope switching!
 
pyle,
Yes, ask to borrow your wife or girlfriend's makeup mirror - place your scope over the mirror and look through it - you'll see the crosshairs and their reflection. Turn the adjustments until they match up. Done!
 
Place the objective end against a mirror. It the scope is off center, you will see two sets of crosshairs.. Adjust the windage/elevation settings until both crosshairs are one.

Hopefully, I remembered this right. I've done it a couple of times when changing scopes.
 
Or........

Gently turn the turret in one direction until it stops. (Gently being the operative word...). Once it's reached the end of its travel, click the turret completly to the end of its travel in the other direction, counting clicks as you go. Divide this number by two, and adjust the turrent back in the original direction this number of clicks.

Repeat for the other turret.

Mike
 
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Or........

Gently turn the turret in one direction until it stops. (Gently being the operative word...). Once it's reached the end of its travel, click the turret completly to the end of its travel in the other direction, counting clicks as you go. Divide this number by two, and adjust the turrent back in the original direction this number of clicks.

Repeat for the other turret.

Mike



The check it with a mirror and see how close it is!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Tim
 
I am curious as to why you want/need to do this.

When you mount the scope, you have to zero it to the target, not to the middle of the tube?

There is no advantage to it.

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That scope has been on 3 rifles so far and I want to make sure it starts off back at zero when it moves to #4. Yes, I will have to adjust it again!
 
Yes there is an advantage to having the scope optically centered at mounting, if the bore is out of alignment with the mounts by very much, it will show up immediately when it's bore sighted. That's why some folks end up having to shim bases or use Burris offset inserts due to misalignment issues. Using a mirror to center the reticle costs nothing and is Leupold's recommended method of doing so. You also dont' have to worry about locking the
ajustments up by bottoming them out when counting clicks.

Tim

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Centering of a scope's adjustment dials
The elevation and windage adjustments of a scope are easily centered. Place a small mirror against the objective end of the scope. That would be the end farthest from your eye as you look through the scope. Make certain that the mirror is large enough to cover the entire objective. It must also be flat against the objective. With the scope's power selector ring set at the lowest magnification, look through the eyepiece as you would while aiming at a target. If the scope's windage and elevation adjustments are off center, you will see two images of the reticle (cross-hair). To reach the center of the adjustment range, simply turn the elevation and windage dials until you see only one image of the reticle.



Leupold mirror method
 
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Yes there is an advantage to having the scope optically centered at mounting, if the bore is out of alignment with the mounts by very much, it will show up immediately when it's bore sighted. That's why some folks end up having to shim bases or use Burris offset inserts due to misalignment issues. Using a mirror to center the reticle costs nothing and is Leupold's recommended method of doing so. You also dont' have to worry about locking the
ajustments up by bottoming them out when counting clicks.

Tim



I have never had that problem... I set up my scopes so that the 100 yd zero is at the bottom of the elevation turret's range - that way I get all of the up that is available for shooting, and never have to worry about loosing track of where the elevation is.

Works for me.

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I definately like to have my windage centered when mounting a scope and go to great detail to get my mounts adjusted to allow for a perfect centered reticle when mounted. As for the elevation, some of my rigs are set up to be at the bottom of the adjustment when shooting at one hundred yards.


The mirror trick works well on most scopes. Maybe it is my eyes, but high power scopes with target hairs are a problem. I have to resort to counting clicks.
 
Randy, try a thicker mirror or a piece of glass or clear plastic tween mirror and objective lens to allow a little more light in. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

Tim
 
This is one of the best tips I ever picked up from here when It was originaly posted. I have found this to be true you must put your scope on the lowest power and you should use a regular mirror not a magnification mirror like the ones found in a make-up compact, I used part of an old truck mirror. If you have a scope mount with adjustable windage, just center your reticle in the scope line up your scope up in the mount with a bore sight or on a fixed object and you will be right on the money, beats the heck out of counting clicks.....Steve in Az
 
I have a block of wood about 4 inches long a 1 X 4 attached to each end ...... the 1` x 4's stick up above the block of wood
each of the one by 4's have an identical v notch cut into them

I put the scope in the V's and look through it.....

I rotate it 180 degrees and then adjust the crosshairs
so that the crosshairs are in the center........
they don't change when you rotate the scope 180 degrees....
i usually have to rotate and adjust several times......


I usually put the block of wood in a Workmate and look through the scope at something 50 or 80 yards away....... like the windows on my neighbors porch.... or a post sticking up in the yard.....
 
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Or........

Gently turn the turret in one direction until it stops. (Gently being the operative word...). Once it's reached the end of its travel, click the turret completly to the end of its travel in the other direction, counting clicks as you go. Divide this number by two, and adjust the turrent back in the original direction this number of clicks.

Repeat for the other turret.










Mike




This is the traditional "tried and true" method.........

It puzzles me as to why some would not want their scope optically centered before mounting.....
 
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Centering is only relevant when using a mount that allows windage adjustment.

Jack



Don't really know where you are coming from with this one, Jack. Could you explain a little more? Thank you....
 
I will give it a shot till he shows up. Without windage adjustable bases or rings, it will not matter if the scope is optically centered. You will have to chase the POI with the turrett adjustments. If you have windage adjustable bases or rings, you can mount an optically centered scope, chase the POI with the bases and it will remain optically centered.
 
There are other benefits to having the reticle centered.

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A scope should always be mounted so under normal shooting conditions the reticle remains near the optical center. This is especially true of inexpensive scopes. If the reticle is moved excessively off-center, the windage or elevation calibration may become inaccurate. This is why expensive bench rest scopes are custom made so the reticle is centered for a particular rifle mounting and zero range. Competition shooters want their scopes to move the impact point a known distance with each click through a wide range.

The traditional way of mounting a new scope is to first attach the bottom half of the rings to the rifle and with the rifle on a good steady rest, sight through the bore at a target and then through the scope while it is resting on the rings. If the mounts are parallel with the bore then the scope should need only minor adjustment to move the reticle onto the target. More than a few clicks in any direction indicates the mounts need to be shimmed or reshaped. After shimming or shaping the mounts most good smiths will also lap the rings to ensure they are aligned and will not bend the scope tube when tightened. Even slight bending of the tube may cause the scope's adjustment mechanism to bind. Once this is completed, the scope is tightened in place and checked again to verify the scope is still parallel with the bore. Only after proper alignment are the windage and elevation adjustments moved. This method will provide good results, but does not ensure the reticle will remain in the optical center after the arm is zeroed for its trajectory.

An optical boresight comes in real handy on firearms where it is not possible to look through the bore, or to keep the reticle centered when zeroed for normal shooting conditions. But this does not mean simply clicking elevation and windage until the X's line up! If the boresight is new, always first confirm it's grid is near "zero" by checking it on another sighted firearm of the same caliber and type of mounting. Note the point where the reticle falls on the grid. This point is usually a much better indication of the probable "zero" setting than the boresight grid's center or a view through the barrel. As above, if more than a few clicks in any direction are required to put the reticle on the proper grid point, then the mounts may need work.

You can check to see if a scope's reticle is centered by rotating it in the mounts while looking through it at a boresight grid or distant object. If the reticle moves in a large circle relative to the grid or object, then the reticle is not centered and your mounts probably need to be shimmed to keep it centered.

By keeping the reticle close to the optical center you will discover windage and elevation adjustments are more accurate over a greater adjustment range and the scope may seem to shoot better groups. You should especially notice the difference with inexpensive scopes. Any reduction of optical parallax means changes to eye position will have less effect on where the bullet hits. Another benefit is differences in mounting height will have less effect on boresight readings, so it is easier to compare settings between firearms.




http://www.shootingsoftware.com/borescopes.htm
 


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