sent loc getting sued

Having worked around canines in various phases of law enforcement over the years, and considering that a wild canine form, or any other animal for that matter, that would be normally depend on it's sense of smell for survival could detect a variety odors and distinguish between 'good' and 'bad' from their perspective, I've never been a real believer in the scent hiding claims. Including the claims of scent removing laundry detergents, etc...

That's not to say they may not work and a lot of people believe in them. They probably reduce detection to a degree under specific circumstances, but not the cure-all that a lot of advertisement would lead the average person to believe.

At any rate, it will be an interesting case and I will be interested in the evidence and "expert" testimony that will be presented.....on both sides..

A hundred million dollars per year is a lot of money in my book... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
I could tell you it didn't work the first time I broke wind in a pair of Scent Lok pants and smelled it! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif So, it'll trap all of your human scent, but can't stop the smell of passed gas??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I can just see a guy eating a can of chilli and being an exhibit in the court case! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
It's no secret that you can't hide or disguise the human scent from a coyote, so why should a whitetail be any easier to fool? If charcoal really absorbed and hid "any" kind of odor, then drug smugglers would be using tons of the stuff to get their dope thru Customs past the dog sniffers. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I've talked to people on both sides of the work/doesn't work argument and come to the following conclusion. HUNT THE WIND AND SAVE YOURSELF LOTS OF MOOLAH!

Cool about the lawsuit though-this may settle all the questions!
 
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The suit doesn't cite any independent testing done on the clothing that shows it doesn't work.




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Cool about the lawsuit though-this may settle all the questions!



Unfortunately, it's pretty common for suits to have no scientific basis, be completely wrong on the facts, and still win. Dow Corning went bankrupt over silicone breast implants when it's been proven they were safe (though the surgery itself carries risk). Doesn't matter, it still made lawyers (and no one else) very very rich. Just too bad for the thousands of people who lost their jobs.

This suit will likely prove nothing one way or another.

Scentloc may or may not work on big game, but I doubt seriously it (or anything else) would fool a coyote's nose. That's just common sense. Either watch your downwind side or protect it with something (river, canyon, cliffs, etc).
 
Part of me wants to say "caveat emptor", or however it's spelled. I'd really like to think that people are not so gullible as to think that clothing is going to eliminate 100% of your stench. Especially considering that we're constantly inhaling and exhaling, and I see someone is selling gum now claiming to address that issue.

That said, according to the article they provided a written guarantee? That is probably a very poor practice any time you're attempting to dupe the public.

Interestingly, I ""think"" I've dealt with the test lab they mentioned, though operating under a previous name. They advertised well, charged phenomenal prices, told a good story, and couldn't find their a#$%@ with both hands.
 
What Joe said.

I never bought into it because there is no way to cover 100% of your body with the stuff, and I'm not going to wear all of the hoods, gloves, etc. that they sell. I want to be reasonbly comfortable when I hunt. I do what I can; wash my clothes in what is suppose to be scent free soap, wash in scent free soap, then play the wind. I don't know why I even bother to do anything but play the wind as I usually work up a sweat getting to my stand anyway.

Mike
 
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It's no secret that you can't hide or disguise the human scent from a coyote, so why should a whitetail be any easier to fool? If charcoal really absorbed and hid "any" kind of odor, then drug smugglers would be using tons of the stuff to get their dope thru Customs past the dog sniffers. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif




Research has shown a dog's nose is much more sensitive than that of a deer. I don't care what your wearing but a deer is going to smell a human if they stick their nose right up to them, but do any of us expect that to happen in the deer woods? Here's where I believe the stuff can help a deer hunter and I have some experience in the field to back it up. Say you get a big buck downwind and you are squeeky clean and are wearing activated carbon. That same buck catches the slightest whiff of you but believes you to be several hundred yards away when in fact you have drawn on him and have your 30 yard pin on his ribs. This has happened to me more than once. It's easy to say "play the wind" but doesn't the wind occasionally shift? The same could be said when there is no detectable wind but the thermals aren't working in the hunter's favor. I play the wind as much as possible and absolutely will not hunt a stand if the prevailing wind isn't right to hunt it. That said, eventually deer are going to show up downwind. It's a rare stand where deer absolutely can't get downwind, so it's in a hunter's best interest to take great measures to reduce the amount of scent he is dispersing, as taking no precautions would cost the hunter a buck in the example I used. I remember a late season bowhunt several years ago when I was on stand after being cleaned up and wearing Scentlok. I had a half dozen does and fawns straight downwind about sixty yards for ten minutes browsing and none ever had a clue I existed. Eventually they wandered off without a shot oppurtunity and about ten minutes later a red fox strolled into the exact same spot. When he was downwind from me he blew out of there like his tail was on fire. That example reinforces my belief that a canine's nose is superior to the nose of a deer. Most of our scent comes from our heads (sweat glands and breath) so wearing a carbon suit without the headcover is like pizzin' in the wind. Say the stuff doesn't work. There could still be a placebo effect that allows the hunter to be more confident. When I am confident I hunt much smarter and more focused. Any experienced archer will tell you bowhunting is 90 percent mental. I am probably overblowing this whole thing but I spend a lot of sleepless nights trying to think of better ways to zip an arrow through my next big buck. If the company loses the suit the only winners will be scumbag trial lawyers who donate to the Democrats and that's not good for any of us. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
Interesting..and makes sense. Kinda like the stealth technology-it doesn't completely eliminate a radar signature, just reduces it to something that is too small for some systems to detect, or if detected, shows up as something like a pigeon or stray feedback.

We'll see what turns out!
 
I've never wasted any money on it. I will say human scent elimanator spray does work on legs and boots for deer. A canine can smell cocaine in a gas tank. Better rely on the wind.
 
Here in N.W. FL the wind is constantly changing and swirling in the thick stuff, where I bow hunt. The wind will stop and back up often during the prime time or late evening, saturating a good sized area with my sent. I had deer blowing right under me and couldn't get a shot or sometimes even see them in the thick stuff. This is with a climber 30+ ft. up sometimes. I finally tried the Savana Sent Lock, the full deal. Pluss the bathing, spraying, all of it. Even chewing pine needles.
Conclusion: it helps but isn't magic. They (deer) know you are there but gave me shots that I didn't get before, even on the ground. It is more of a pain than my usual method of getting clean. Before I had deer blowing at over 200 yards. Didn't experience that with the full deal. This is the hardest conditions I have ever hunted. It is farm country and most fields are 100-300 acres. Everyone here shoots and now we have coyotes. The deer are very spooky.
Maybe they haven't had enough generations yet to get used to the coyotes. Also the farmers here have a lot of crop dammage from deer so the Game Commision gives them permits to shoot at night, and they do. Spoooookey deer.
Sentlock is "some" help.
 
I agree with Pyledriver, hunt the wind! You can do all you want to disguise your scent, but the minute you get in your rig your clothes absorb odors from there and defeat some of what you have done eliminate the smell. Air currents and movement are the two most critical aspects of hunting.
 
That's why I won't wear my hunting clothes in the truck. Drive to my hunting spots darn near nekked. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Has the suit been heard in court? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
Hunters killing their own. What a croc. Look at me, I can't hunt worth a chit so I'll just sue somebody...wah wah wah.

What about taking it back to Gander and getting a refund? Tards!
 
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That's why I won't wear my hunting clothes in the truck. Drive to my hunting spots darn near nekked. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif




That must be when you are going bare huntin' huh? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I'm glad they are being sued. It is so obvious that it is immpossible for these products to work I have never understood why people would buy it. They don't use the right type of carbon and even if they did there is no way you could reactivate it. Unless your dryer can heat well over 200 degrees.
 


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