hey 12 gauge, are you a record publisher at Sony or a songwriter who has been screwed out of royalties in the past. The sounds that we're talking about aren't exactly musical compositions that need copyright protection. Besides I don't thing the companies that are re-producing these sounds are paying the damn rabbits any royalties for their contributions. And another point to consider is that I have tried to get sounds from some of the firms who provide them and they don't seem to want to sell you them unless you're using their particular device. So should I go and spend a couple thousand dollars in equiptment to get a few sounds that I like or just swap them with a few guys that I like. Capitalism does just fine without your help.