Shooters taking advantage of shooters
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ARCOREY
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I have some extra components laying around that I don't use anymore. I try not to sell them, because the money is worthless when you can't buy what you use on a regular basis. I try and trade them instead and each pay shipping on their own part. No way to gouge item for item if you make fair trades. If you don't think the trade is adequate, keep looking. I won't play the gouger game and won't be part of it. I had chances to buy multiple lowers and bulk ammo cheap and play the market. I was warned this was coming and saw hints well before it hit. I'm just not into exploiting my fellow shooters in a time of panic or need. The few component items I did sell were either at the price paid plus shipping or at MidwayUSA's current price plus shipping if I couldn't find a price tag. I've probably lost money on some items to be honest because I knocked some money off to be on the safe side. I won't buy anything I don't intend to use or my shooting buddies don't intend to use. People remember and karma is a b!t@h. Respect is better to have in your pocket than a few dollars. If folks would all act like this, there would be plenty of available stock and price wouldn't be an issue.
What really gets me fired up are the ones trying to sell their crap stripped lowers that cost $90 a year ago for $300 and complaining about the gas prices being nearly $4 a gallon or the ones who have 10,000 primers and don't reload, but complain that somebody is sitting on Pmags that doesn't own an AR. Too much hypocracy
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What really gets me fired up are the ones trying to sell their crap stripped lowers that cost $90 a year ago for $300 and complaining about the gas prices being nearly $4 a gallon or the ones who have 10,000 primers and don't reload, but complain that somebody is sitting on Pmags that doesn't own an AR. Too much hypocracy
Orneryolfart357
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Well, I have a buddy that just started reloading before the High prices started. He cant find much in the way of components, So I gave him a LB of Unique and 1100 primers, and told him He could replace them when they become available. I would have trouble "In My own mind" selling stuff for 3 times what I paid, just cus others are doing it.
This is all up to the seller however and if a person wants to sell at inflated prices, thats their choice, and to buy or not to buy is Your choice. JMO
This is all up to the seller however and if a person wants to sell at inflated prices, thats their choice, and to buy or not to buy is Your choice. JMO
Originally Posted By: BeluebowDon't forget about other shooters that's stepped up and turned loose of stuff for a fellow shooter in need.Seen that on many different boards.If the size of your bank account makes you sleep better at night have at it.
I don't see a lot of shooter's posting 100 55-gr. .224 V-max bullets for $23.99. I'm sure there are some friends on these forums that will help each other out as I would with friends and family at no cost. I'm not pricing my stuff to "build up my bank account." I'm pricing my stuff so I can afford a box of 55 gr. V-max bullets if I ever come across one.
And as far as the trading game, it's no different than exchanging cash for goods. Same thing. Even though you are trading something that doesn't have a lot of value to you, I'm betting you don't let it go very cheap in a trade either.
It's always fun to cast the first stone...........
I don't see a lot of shooter's posting 100 55-gr. .224 V-max bullets for $23.99. I'm sure there are some friends on these forums that will help each other out as I would with friends and family at no cost. I'm not pricing my stuff to "build up my bank account." I'm pricing my stuff so I can afford a box of 55 gr. V-max bullets if I ever come across one.
And as far as the trading game, it's no different than exchanging cash for goods. Same thing. Even though you are trading something that doesn't have a lot of value to you, I'm betting you don't let it go very cheap in a trade either.
It's always fun to cast the first stone...........
Originally Posted By: GerbsOriginally Posted By: BeluebowDon't forget about other shooters that's stepped up and turned loose of stuff for a fellow shooter in need.Seen that on many different boards.If the size of your bank account makes you sleep better at night have at it.
I don't see a lot of shooter's posting 100 55-gr. .224 V-max bullets for $23.99. I'm sure there are some friends on these forums that will help each other out as I would with friends and family at no cost.
No, but some of us have used our own gas money and time to buy locally available components which are then sent across the country others in need/want that can't get them. I've had folks on this and other boards help me out, so I try to turn it around and do the same when possible. I'll keep doing that, even if it doesn't fatten the wallet.
I don't see a lot of shooter's posting 100 55-gr. .224 V-max bullets for $23.99. I'm sure there are some friends on these forums that will help each other out as I would with friends and family at no cost.
No, but some of us have used our own gas money and time to buy locally available components which are then sent across the country others in need/want that can't get them. I've had folks on this and other boards help me out, so I try to turn it around and do the same when possible. I'll keep doing that, even if it doesn't fatten the wallet.
Heck of a philosophical issue. From the wide range of replies, you can readily see we have both capitalism at it's best and the worst and best of people, depending on where to stands and your values. I suspect, these same approaches will apply to any topic you want to talk about. The fact that we on this blog enjoy the sport of shooting or hunting, has no affect on the prices we attach to what we buy or sell. Some will say, throw out the moralistic ideals and sell for whatever the market will bring you. Screw everybody else before they screw you. Others say it's immoral to charge higher than usual prices for whatever. Gotta live with yourself and look in the mirror every morning. If you like what you see, you'll know what to do. If your REALLY LOVE yourself and your money, God help the poor guy you are about to do! But there's always hope that those who do, will one day gets theirs.
It all depends on the person needing the item. If it is someone I know, or I had previous dealings with, and I am comfortable knowing that the person has run out and wants ammo to shoot. I would probably just give it to them, no charge. If it was someone that I had no previous knowledge of and they are telling me that they just NEED some ammo, I have no idea if they are truthful or if they intend to hoard it, or resell at a profit. In that case, it will cost them market value, whatever that is at the time, regardless of what I paid for it. I don't keep good track of those kind of things. Actually, I probably just wouldn't sell it at all, I would keep it.
Originally Posted By: ShynlocoThe fact that we on this blog enjoy the sport of shooting or hunting, has no affect on the prices we attach to what we buy or sell.
I guess I don't agree. My wife thinks I'm nuts for the amount I will pay for some of my hunting stuff! I think the fact that I enjoy shooting and hunting has a huge affect on the prices I pay. To drop $600 on a Shockwave, you have to have coyotes on your mind!
I guess I don't agree. My wife thinks I'm nuts for the amount I will pay for some of my hunting stuff! I think the fact that I enjoy shooting and hunting has a huge affect on the prices I pay. To drop $600 on a Shockwave, you have to have coyotes on your mind!
SShooterZ
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Originally Posted By: 3DHUSKERFree enterprise... That is what makes this country awesome.
If you want to tell some one how much they are going to charge for their ammo you have taken the first step towards socialism . If you don't like the price don't buy it. Same for telling us what size of drink we can have or how many rounds I can have in my mag. You guys can't have it both ways.
No one is taking advantage of anyone, people seem happy to buy at inflated prices. No one has a gun to their head making them do it.
This too shall pass.
THIS!!!!
I've been an opportunistic buyer for years. See a great deal, snatch it up, knowing I will probably use it at some time. I rarely buy what I don't need just to sell it at inflated prices. (Although I should have with PMAGS, even though I don't own an AR!!
) I've seen guys selling Varget for $300 for 8 lbs. Are you F-ing kidding me!? The stuff is coming back. And if you shoot so much that you're burning through that much powder you HAVE to buy ahead and not assume someone will always have it in stock.
I've seen some ads on Craigslist for Powder/Primers at just over the wall prices. I always flag those. I don't give a crap who you are, you're just dicking over fellow shooters.
On the flip side, the price of brass for instance has gone way up. So, if you have 1000 pieces of brass and XYZ company is selling it at XYZ price and you are priced similar, I have no problem with that. That's the market price!
OK, rant over...
If you want to tell some one how much they are going to charge for their ammo you have taken the first step towards socialism . If you don't like the price don't buy it. Same for telling us what size of drink we can have or how many rounds I can have in my mag. You guys can't have it both ways.
No one is taking advantage of anyone, people seem happy to buy at inflated prices. No one has a gun to their head making them do it.
This too shall pass.
THIS!!!!
I've been an opportunistic buyer for years. See a great deal, snatch it up, knowing I will probably use it at some time. I rarely buy what I don't need just to sell it at inflated prices. (Although I should have with PMAGS, even though I don't own an AR!!
I've seen some ads on Craigslist for Powder/Primers at just over the wall prices. I always flag those. I don't give a crap who you are, you're just dicking over fellow shooters.
On the flip side, the price of brass for instance has gone way up. So, if you have 1000 pieces of brass and XYZ company is selling it at XYZ price and you are priced similar, I have no problem with that. That's the market price!
OK, rant over...
2muchgun
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Originally Posted By: BeluebowDon't forget about other shooters that's stepped up and turned loose of stuff for a fellow shooter in need.
Yes, I gave away free stuff and offered up some more free stuff just last week. There are several here who have been generous to me, and if they need a favor, they get one. It does not go forgotten.
I REALLY, REALLY, never planned on discussing this topic again, BUT:
In attempt to be brief, I will just say that not everyone on all boards are "fellow shooters". A term we all like to use often. Some of them are merely here to turn a buck off of the real hunters/shooters. Just like the individual I called out last week.
These people's hobby IS NOT hunting/shooting, but rather it IS buying/selling. The mere fact that all or nearly all of their posts are in the classifieds should make this a self-evident truth.
PM has a few of this type, but on the grand scale of things, not many at all compared to some other boards. A "fellow shooter" offers something up at a good price in hopes another "fellow shooter" can use it, and one of these bottom feeders scoops it up only to sell it somewhere else. Happens every day. So yes, they do have a negative effect upon the real hunters/shooters, even though most will argue all day that they do not.
The fact that they all like to make it sound as if they are "helping us out" really gets me. Especially when I know of the individual and of their dealings. They have no intentions of helping anybody out, and never have. They are buyers/sellers, not hunters/shooters, and that fact isn't hard to validate.
Soooo, my fellow PM members, keep an eye out for these people, cuz more are on the way. Make note of who is a "good dude" and who is a price gouger under difficult times. Check out who participates only in the classifieds, who is actually really interested in hunting/shooting and contributes to what this board is really all about.
Then choose the company you keep accordingly.............
Yes, I gave away free stuff and offered up some more free stuff just last week. There are several here who have been generous to me, and if they need a favor, they get one. It does not go forgotten.
I REALLY, REALLY, never planned on discussing this topic again, BUT:
In attempt to be brief, I will just say that not everyone on all boards are "fellow shooters". A term we all like to use often. Some of them are merely here to turn a buck off of the real hunters/shooters. Just like the individual I called out last week.
These people's hobby IS NOT hunting/shooting, but rather it IS buying/selling. The mere fact that all or nearly all of their posts are in the classifieds should make this a self-evident truth.
PM has a few of this type, but on the grand scale of things, not many at all compared to some other boards. A "fellow shooter" offers something up at a good price in hopes another "fellow shooter" can use it, and one of these bottom feeders scoops it up only to sell it somewhere else. Happens every day. So yes, they do have a negative effect upon the real hunters/shooters, even though most will argue all day that they do not.
The fact that they all like to make it sound as if they are "helping us out" really gets me. Especially when I know of the individual and of their dealings. They have no intentions of helping anybody out, and never have. They are buyers/sellers, not hunters/shooters, and that fact isn't hard to validate.
Soooo, my fellow PM members, keep an eye out for these people, cuz more are on the way. Make note of who is a "good dude" and who is a price gouger under difficult times. Check out who participates only in the classifieds, who is actually really interested in hunting/shooting and contributes to what this board is really all about.
Then choose the company you keep accordingly.............
I get that it is annoying and frustrating trying to find stuff much less at a decent price it's simple supply vs demand people are free to ask want they want for a item if you don't like it move on is the way I view items I want or think I need,
This time around is also a perfect example of why your plan ahead and have what you need on had to weather times like this so you will not e force to pay the prices people are asking, the ones complaining now are the ones that didn't plan and I've found myself on the complaining side since I knew alot of this was coming but not to this extent.
This time around is also a perfect example of why your plan ahead and have what you need on had to weather times like this so you will not e force to pay the prices people are asking, the ones complaining now are the ones that didn't plan and I've found myself on the complaining side since I knew alot of this was coming but not to this extent.
SShooterZ
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Originally Posted By: GerbsSo you should have bought Pmags to sell at inflated prices but you always flag people on Craigslist for powder/primers at over the wall prices?
There's a quote function on the forum, make sure you use so that you don't take comments out of context like you did.
(Although I should have with PMAGS, even though I don't own an AR!!
)
Maybe you missed the emoticons after that comment indicating I was joking...
There's a quote function on the forum, make sure you use so that you don't take comments out of context like you did.
(Although I should have with PMAGS, even though I don't own an AR!!
Maybe you missed the emoticons after that comment indicating I was joking...
midwestpredator
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Originally Posted By: 2muchgunOriginally Posted By: BeluebowDon't forget about other shooters that's stepped up and turned loose of stuff for a fellow shooter in need.
Yes, I gave away free stuff and offered up some more free stuff just last week. There are several here who have been generous to me, and if they need a favor, they get one. It does not go forgotten.
I REALLY, REALLY, never planned on discussing this topic again, BUT:
In attempt to be brief, I will just say that not everyone on all boards are "fellow shooters". A term we all like to use often. Some of them are their merely here to turn a buck off of the real hunters/shooters. Just like the individual I called out last week.
These people's hobby IS NOT hunting/shooting, but rather it IS buying/selling. The mere fact that all or nearly all of their posts are in the classifieds should make this a self-evident truth.
PM has a few of this type, but on the grand scale of things, not many at all compared to some other boards. A "fellow shooter" offers something up at a good price in hopes another "fellow shooter" can use it, and one of these bottom feeders scoops it up only to sell it somewhere else. Happens every day. So yes, they do have a negative effect upon the real hunters/shooters, even though most will argue all day that they do not.
The fact that they all like to make it sound as if they are "helping us out" really gets me. Especially when I know of the individual and of their dealings. They have no intentions of helping anybody out, and never have. They are buyers/sellers, not hunters/shooters, and that fact isn't hard to validate.
Soooo, my fellow PM members, keep an eye out for these people, cuz more are on the way. Make note of who is a "good dude" and who is a price gouger under difficult times. Check out who participates only in the classifieds, who is actually really interested in hunting/shooting and contributes to what this board is really all about.
Then choose the company you keep accordingly.............
What about retailers or say site sponsors gouging?? Ive seen a few of them with "inflated" prices, are you boycotting them too? Just curious...
Yes, I gave away free stuff and offered up some more free stuff just last week. There are several here who have been generous to me, and if they need a favor, they get one. It does not go forgotten.
I REALLY, REALLY, never planned on discussing this topic again, BUT:
In attempt to be brief, I will just say that not everyone on all boards are "fellow shooters". A term we all like to use often. Some of them are their merely here to turn a buck off of the real hunters/shooters. Just like the individual I called out last week.
These people's hobby IS NOT hunting/shooting, but rather it IS buying/selling. The mere fact that all or nearly all of their posts are in the classifieds should make this a self-evident truth.
PM has a few of this type, but on the grand scale of things, not many at all compared to some other boards. A "fellow shooter" offers something up at a good price in hopes another "fellow shooter" can use it, and one of these bottom feeders scoops it up only to sell it somewhere else. Happens every day. So yes, they do have a negative effect upon the real hunters/shooters, even though most will argue all day that they do not.
The fact that they all like to make it sound as if they are "helping us out" really gets me. Especially when I know of the individual and of their dealings. They have no intentions of helping anybody out, and never have. They are buyers/sellers, not hunters/shooters, and that fact isn't hard to validate.
Soooo, my fellow PM members, keep an eye out for these people, cuz more are on the way. Make note of who is a "good dude" and who is a price gouger under difficult times. Check out who participates only in the classifieds, who is actually really interested in hunting/shooting and contributes to what this board is really all about.
Then choose the company you keep accordingly.............
What about retailers or say site sponsors gouging?? Ive seen a few of them with "inflated" prices, are you boycotting them too? Just curious...
Originally Posted By: SShooterZOriginally Posted By: GerbsSo you should have bought Pmags to sell at inflated prices but you always flag people on Craigslist for powder/primers at over the wall prices?
There's a quote function on the forum, make sure you use so that you don't take comments out of context like you did.
(Although I should have with PMAGS, even though I don't own an AR!!
)
Maybe you missed the emoticons after that comment indicating I was joking...
You said that you should have bought Pmags even though you don't own an AR. I didn't take anything out of context, you said it, I didn't. I guess I read words better than smiley faces.
There's a quote function on the forum, make sure you use so that you don't take comments out of context like you did.
(Although I should have with PMAGS, even though I don't own an AR!!
Maybe you missed the emoticons after that comment indicating I was joking...
You said that you should have bought Pmags even though you don't own an AR. I didn't take anything out of context, you said it, I didn't. I guess I read words better than smiley faces.
ARCOREY
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Originally Posted By: Gerbs
I don't see a lot of shooter's posting 100 55-gr. .224 V-max bullets for $23.99. I'm sure there are some friends on these forums that will help each other out as I would with friends and family at no cost. I'm not pricing my stuff to "build up my bank account." I'm pricing my stuff so I can afford a box of 55 gr. V-max bullets if I ever come across one.
And as far as the trading game, it's no different than exchanging cash for goods. Same thing. Even though you are trading something that doesn't have a lot of value to you, I'm betting you don't let it go very cheap in a trade either.
It's always fun to cast the first stone...........
I usually PM my stuff to folks when I see they are in need to avoid feeding the frenzy. As for the prices, $25 shipped is what I just sold a full box of 60gr. V-maxes to a fellow member on here for. Owed him nothing, hadn't dealt with him in the past much, just saw he was in need and know his reputation from here and another forum. Someday he may have something I need and I'm sure he'll remember how I treated him. I tried working out a trade, but he didn't have anything I needed, so I gave him what I thought to be a fair price and he took it. They were never advertized, I bought them a while back to try and just didn't need them since I had a working load already with the 50's. I just offered up a similar deal to another member last night in my area after he expressed concern for finding a particular 6mm bullet, again not advertized. I don't use that type bullet anymore and don't need them. I will try and barter them out to him or sell them for what I paid if they work for him. I'll have time and travel in it if the deal happens, but I'll have a strengthened friendship too and that is worth more than the extra $10 I can make off of him.
I have stuff I'm not using that will sell quicker than I can post the ad, even at elevated pricing. I'd rather build a few trusts with my fellow members and barter or sell at cost or below before I make profit off of them. Otherwise the forum is less of a community and more of a classifieds board and there are plenty of those out there already
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I don't see a lot of shooter's posting 100 55-gr. .224 V-max bullets for $23.99. I'm sure there are some friends on these forums that will help each other out as I would with friends and family at no cost. I'm not pricing my stuff to "build up my bank account." I'm pricing my stuff so I can afford a box of 55 gr. V-max bullets if I ever come across one.
And as far as the trading game, it's no different than exchanging cash for goods. Same thing. Even though you are trading something that doesn't have a lot of value to you, I'm betting you don't let it go very cheap in a trade either.
It's always fun to cast the first stone...........
I usually PM my stuff to folks when I see they are in need to avoid feeding the frenzy. As for the prices, $25 shipped is what I just sold a full box of 60gr. V-maxes to a fellow member on here for. Owed him nothing, hadn't dealt with him in the past much, just saw he was in need and know his reputation from here and another forum. Someday he may have something I need and I'm sure he'll remember how I treated him. I tried working out a trade, but he didn't have anything I needed, so I gave him what I thought to be a fair price and he took it. They were never advertized, I bought them a while back to try and just didn't need them since I had a working load already with the 50's. I just offered up a similar deal to another member last night in my area after he expressed concern for finding a particular 6mm bullet, again not advertized. I don't use that type bullet anymore and don't need them. I will try and barter them out to him or sell them for what I paid if they work for him. I'll have time and travel in it if the deal happens, but I'll have a strengthened friendship too and that is worth more than the extra $10 I can make off of him.
I have stuff I'm not using that will sell quicker than I can post the ad, even at elevated pricing. I'd rather build a few trusts with my fellow members and barter or sell at cost or below before I make profit off of them. Otherwise the forum is less of a community and more of a classifieds board and there are plenty of those out there already