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Thats exactly what I was thinking. I would leave the stock a bit longer. And a 1 inch mag extension would be more than enough to fit 5 in the tube instead of 4.

I have always found them to be a bit ugly but with that shape they fit well with a super short LOP and the stock fits nice right under your arm pit, it would be a great buckshot range toy, plus match and fit in beside the nightstand real well. I should put a hanger on the end of the mag tube for a carbide lamp from a miners helmet.
 
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Good to know, I was going to look into a kit like that.

I dont know how old these springs are, I cant imagine them being much more stiff if new, they seem just fine somehow. The game loads I shot were 1oz, 7 1/2, 3 1/4 dram eq. 1290fps. So not the lightest loads but it still didnt cycle the gun with the recoil set for heavy loads. I set the recoil to light loads and it was ejecting fine and everything felt mild, the whole reciprocating mass of the Model 11 kept those rounds very mild compared to my pump gun I shot the same ammo in just before.
 
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Thats exactly what I was thinking. I would leave the stock a bit longer. And a 1 inch mag extension would be more than enough to fit 5 in the tube instead of 4.

I have always found them to be a bit ugly but with that shape they fit well with a super short LOP and the stock fits nice right under your arm pit, it would be a great buckshot range toy, plus match and fit in beside the nightstand real well. I should put a hanger on the end of the mag tube for a carbide lamp from a miners helmet.
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Historically that is called a "Whip", sometimes a "Buggy Whip." Lots of old gangsters and lawmen used chopped Auto Five/Model 11 shotguns for their needs. Bonnie of Bonnie and Clyde fame had a 20 gauge set up as a Whip and killed a policeman once with it. One of the lawmen with Frank Hamer had a 12 gauge Whip on the stake out which killed the two gangsters. I know a retired SF guy who uses a Whip as his home defense shotgun even today.
 
Ive got too many irons-in-the-fire right now to be buying parts for this, ive got to drill chokes for another gun that just fell into my lap and i had to buy and I have to rebuild a Hemi sitting in my living room right now, but im sure this summer I will be looking again.

Something about this shotgun fits well right in your arm pit, I try the same with the pump guns and no thanks. I want to be able to shoulder mine but not by a lot.
 
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The forearm of these is very thin where it slips in against the receiver. If you don't make sure the forearm is securely slipped in there and the magazine cap is screwed firmly on by hand when the barrel reciprocates loosely it will batter and split the forearm. Wood stock BAR's have the same issue with thin forearm wood improperly seated against the receiver.
 
Yeah, right against the reciever it has a hole drilled in each side with a brass indexing peg hammered into it, the idexing pegs fit into little holes in the reviever.

The crack is hard to see, very hard to see, just a half inch long hairline between wood grains at the thinnest spot where the brass peg is. I never noticed it before but that brass peg is loose and can be pulled out also. A drop or two of water thin woodworking CA glue down in the loose peg hole would probably take care of the problem but its not bad enough for me to worry. I would just rather take this wood and barrel and put it in a safer spot then have fun with the reciever and replacement barrel and furniture.
 
I was just at Fleet Farm looking at their pump shotguns. Mossberg, Remington and a RIA. They are rough, Im so dang lucky I found this 20" BPS. At the store the actions felt horrible. When I got this 20" I was so impressed with the action that when i got home I loaded it full of 3" 4buck shells and I was able to cycle all them through the gun one handed only holding the action release. One handed jerking the gun back and forth and the shells are running through it without my hand on the pump, thats how good these BPSs are, its like playing with Glocks and other poly frame handgun then getting your hands on a good 1911 and feeling that action, night and day. I dont want a cheap modern gun. Same with this Remington, it feels so much better.
 
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Nothing screams REDNECK like a hemi in the living room. Good man!
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Yeah, thats been the project I have been planning, buying and getting ready for almost 2 years. Everything took longer than planned, I wanted to be doing this this last fall. But I just got all the parts back from the machine shop, I taped up the block today and Ive got to paint it.

I went big though, at first it was going to be sort of a budget upgrade rebuild and then.... I had to get a second job to buy everything. At this point now I see why most people would have spent $6500 on a 6.4 Hemi with 20k miles and just swapped engines. But Im going to have a hand build fully forged 5.8 Hemi that should handle 900hp and 7000rpm just fine. I wont be adding a turbo or supercharger so I will never reach 900hp but I spent 2 weeks hand porting and polishing the heads, long tube exhaust headers with a hellcat exhaust system behind that, all the electric upgrades, upgraded intake manifold, valves, springs, pushrods, camshaft, lifters,,,, everything upgraded, transmission too, some sort of race valve body to shift faster and firmer and hold more HP. I should get 420-450hp to the rear wheels and the car is an old Charger cop car stripped bare inside so its lighter, I should beat a factory Scat Pack, I plan on some Nitrous, I dont have that kit yet but when that happens I can add a 200+hp shot of nitrous to match a factory Hellcat.

Or I will blow a bearing in the first 5 miles.

Buy guns, not race cars......
 
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