Shopping for muzzleloader

Whatever you decide on do some internet research on it before you buy. Some have terrible accuracy or bad features that you can find out about easily and avoid.

I've been very happy with a CVA Accura V2 that has a bergara barrel, very good accuracy but it may be out of your price range it runs just over $400.
 
Originally Posted By: willy1947

I do not have a cloud of smoke when I fire my Savage.



that thing should not even be allowed for hunting any kind of game in a muzzle loader only season.
 
Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnotOriginally Posted By: willy1947I do not have a cloud of smoke when I fire my Savage.

that thing should not even be allowed for hunting any kind of game in a muzzle loader only season.

It was that "cloud of smoke" which really became an aggravation
to me, rather than the accuracy of the regular in-line, or even
the range. Most of my deer taken were early morning or late
evening hours with very little to no wind and usually higher
humidity. An obscured target always made one wonder if the deer
dropped, or ran off and which direction? The 10MLII solved that
problem.

SlickerTS would no doubt disapprove of my converted 700ml .458
smokeless as well.
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Originally Posted By: fw707

Do you have any evidence to support the “adrenaline rush ” deal?
It’s always been a bunch of crap in my experience.


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I would absolutely concur
 
I have a friend that bought a NIB Remington 700, 243 Win. Took it to a gunsmith we know and converted it to a smokeless ML. He used a Douglas barrel also. By the time it was finished and scoped, he has close to $1200 in it. Is it nice???? Well, He11 yes. Does it shoot good?? Well He11 yes. Was it worth the cost? Not to me. It doesn't kill them any deader than my 700 and a 250 grain SST or my Omega with a 250 grain Shockwave. But, it is nice. We only have a 9 day BP season here and a $1200 BP rifle just doesn't seem that logical to me. And with BH209 you don't have that cloud of smoke that some don't seem to like. Besides, isn't that why its called Primitive? The cloud of smoke kinda goes with the season. I wish inlines were a separate season because they sure aren't primitive.
 
Originally Posted By: DannoBooneSlickerTS would no doubt disapprove of my converted 700ml .458
smokeless as well.
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no doubt.
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i always felt like waiting for the "cloud of smoke" to clear was just part of the experience while using a ml. can not even imagine not having it. done took most the fun out of it with out the smoke and smell.

i would like the cleaning end of it though. lol
 
Equal parts of Murphy's furniture soap, peroxide and alcohol mixed in a jug. Using a patch or mop will clean black powder out of a barrel in just a few minutes. Dry it out, oil it up and your good to go.
 
Originally Posted By: pyscodogEqual parts of Murphy's furniture soap, peroxide and alcohol mixed in a jug. Using a patch or mop will clean black powder out of a barrel in just a few minutes. Dry it out, oil it up and your good to go.

That recipe was in an issue of Muzzle Blasts 40 years ago.
It’s still around because it works!

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Originally Posted By: liliysdadOriginally Posted By: fw707

Do you have any evidence to support the “adrenaline rush ” deal?
It’s always been a bunch of crap in my experience.


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I would absolutely concur

Apparently some people prefer the taste of crap over venison,
OR can't tell the difference.
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I've killed a bunch of deer with a BP rifle and very few have dropped on the spot. Can't say I agree to much with this adrenaline rush theory.
 
The "adrenaline makes the meat bad" theory is bunk...just another wives tale from the same vein as "cold weather triggers the rut," and "culling" free range deer.
 
Originally Posted By: liliysdadBad meat is typically the result of poor care after the kill, either by the hunter of the butcher.

Yes, and usually both.
 
Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: liliysdadBad meat is typically the result of poor care after the kill, either by the hunter of the butcher.

Yes, and usually both.

Could not agree more...
 
Originally Posted By: liliysdadOriginally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: liliysdadBad meat is typically the result of poor care after the kill, either by the hunter of the butcher.

Yes, and usually both.

Could not agree more...

And then you add in the fact that most hunters are clueless about how to cook wild game of any kind-especially deer.
The “adrenaline” excuse is always convenient when needed.

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With a good sharp broadhead and good placement I don't think a deer even knows what just happened to them. They're usually on the ground within a few seconds.
 
Originally Posted By: GCWith a good sharp broadhead and good placement I don't think a deer even knows what just happened to them. They're usually on the ground within a few seconds.

Yes, I think they react more to the sound of the bow.
Several years ago I shot one at 7 yards from the base of my tree. It made one little jump, looked around, and went back to nosing the leaves for acorns.
About 5 seconds later it fell over.
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The year before that I shot one from the same tree. He made a mad 100 yard “adrenaline” run and died on his feet.

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