Should I restock the rifle?

swift one

swift one

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My friend just purchased a Savage model 10 FP-SR in .308. The first thing I noticed about the rifle is the factory stock that came with it. Much different than the ones that come with the M12s and M11s. Double swivel studs on the for end, beaver tail for end, and much stiffer than the savage stocks than I am used to. While there is some flex in the stock (not much), it absolutely does not touch the barrel when he is set up in any shooting position and/ or when loading the bipod.

The barrel was broke in well today and it shoots quite well with factory 168gr Match loads. We were just under MOA at 501yds and well under MOA any closer than that.

The weapon is topped with a SWFA super sniper scope (10x) and rides on a Harris 6-9” swivel bipod. 22" bull barrel. Accu trigger breaks clean and consistently at 1.5/ 1.75lbs I plan on working up loads with some 175gr SMKs soon.

He wants to take this gun to 1000yds. No match shooting or big game hunting. Shooting MOA and minute of man size steel only. He asked my opinion of the current stock on the weapon and if it would take him to 1K. He said the stock felt good but he wanted to put a cheek piece on it. I agreed. He asked if it was worth the money to put a Bell and Carlson medalist tactical/ varmint stock on it or if he should leave it as is. Seeing how I am also new to the 1K game, I really don’t know the answer to this. So, what do you guys think? And I mean think based on what HE wants to do with the rifle…LOL.
 
If your buddy wants to shoot past 500yds a lot, then a stock change is a must, but if only going real long once in a while and he likes the current stock then no change.

The .308 Win at 1K is challenge enough, let alone without the accessories.
 
I'd have to see what stock is on it and know hoe he felt about it.

It's easy to tell you to go with a fully adjustable McMillan, you'll get a perfect fit, pillar bed it, there isn't much more a guy could ask for. But, it's costly, I know because I just bought an A5 for my savage.

It would also be easy to recommend a chassis like an xlr.

Those are safe bets, but, the goal here is for a stock that fits your buddy and is supremely comfortable. At 1,000 & further your inconsistency's are magnified exponentially, so any discomfort is going to end with missed opportunities on targets.

So, assuming the stock itself isn't hurting accuracy & it doesn't sound like it is, if he finds it comfortable, if he finds it fits, or will fit with a simple cheekpiece, it could be fine.

But if a new stock is in order, I'd tell you to do it right, find out what fits perfectly and what is preferred. Does he like a vertical grip, thumbhole, adjustable cheek and LOP, or maybe a stock pack creates a more comfortable cheek weld for him and so on.
 



22in barrel, the bullet will drop out of your scopes line of sight and the bullet will go sub sonic way before 1000yds.

Just let you friend have fun shooting and come to Camp Perry and watch the fellows shoot the 1000yd mark. It is alot of fun and check out all the rifles. It is a great road trip.
 
It's an OK rifle, but let "him" play with it at 1,000 yds before throwing money at it.

Thousand yard riffles can get real expensive... real fast.

The 308 will do fine at 1,000 - just ask the Palma shooters that shoot 155gr bullets into 5" groups (with iron sights) at 1,000...

... all day long, cuz they do their part.
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Don't worry about "trans-sonic" BS, it is another one of those old wive's tales, myth thingies.

 
Personally I do not feel the stock to be suitable for LR shooting. A good cheekpiece will cost more than what the stock will bring in sale. I would tell your friend to do his homework and choose a more fitting stock for the task at hand. Be careful when ordering the stock. Measure the bolt spacing or you could end up with a stock that does not fit, because all Savages are not the same.......
 
Everyone rags on any plastic stock mentioned. Some are good and some are not. If it shoots good, why waste the money. As for a cheekpiece, I have 2 Karstens, and they are real nice for the money ($65, I think). Easy to install and do the job. If you don't want to drill the 2 holes for the Karsten, the Blackhawk strap on is a comfortable cheekpiece. I prefer the Karsten, but wouldn't hesitate to ues the Blackhawk. Both are a minimal investment to see if it will work at 1,000.

Tom
 
Quote:22in barrel, the bullet will drop out of your scopes line of sight and the bullet will go sub sonic way before 1000yds.



Sorry, this intell is just wrong when you do your homework and work up the load the right way.

MGYSGT,

I too have a Karsten and love it. He is thinking about going with one if he keeps the stock. I hear ya about everyone ragging about plactic stocks. I have a Katsren cheek piece on the stock that came with my Stevens 7mm-08 and I am shooting Sub MOA out to 600yds. And the stock being talked about in this thread is IMO, far better than the one on my 7/08
 
I won't claim to be a fan of tupperware stocks, but the tupperware in question comes in the wrong form. Savage makes rifles with stocks for LR shooting, and that isn't one of them. Grip is wrong, comb is wrong, forend is wrong. Or at least they are not shaped like typical designs specifically for LR shooting. Could someone get by with a plastic stock of such shape? Sure, I guess. It's all a matter of personal choice.........
 
Originally Posted By: willy1947

22in barrel, the bullet will drop out of your scopes line of sight and the bullet will go sub sonic way before 1000yds.


The right bullet and powder combo, 1k is not a problem . Might knock down an over head bird or 2 on the way to the target .
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Originally Posted By: 2muchgunI won't claim to be a fan of tupperware stocks, but the tupperware in question comes in the wrong form. Savage makes rifles with stocks for LR shooting, and that isn't one of them. Grip is wrong, comb is wrong, forend is wrong. Or at least they are not shaped like typical designs specifically for LR shooting. Could someone get by with a plastic stock of such shape? Sure, I guess. It's all a matter of personal choice.........

I appreciate the input. I think I am going to suggest that he go with the aftermarket that he was looking at. The B&C Medlaist tactical/ varmint.
 
Originally Posted By: Ricky BobbyTim,

Are you not a fan of the Hail Mary?

LOL.... shooting most anything out that far has a good rainbow to it, some more than others.
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