Simmons white tail 6 x 20 x 50, what say you ??
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bluealtered
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Here we go again, i have four of them and have beat the crap out of all of them. One did break and was replaced within two weeks.
Yep, ... real p.o.s. ask anybody who spent a lot more on their scope and it's not any better.
The moment you say simmons here you will get these replies, both good and bad, yes most of their stuff is junk, the wtc isn't to me. I simply take that extra money and put it in the gas tank and go hunt.blue
Yep, ... real p.o.s. ask anybody who spent a lot more on their scope and it's not any better.
The moment you say simmons here you will get these replies, both good and bad, yes most of their stuff is junk, the wtc isn't to me. I simply take that extra money and put it in the gas tank and go hunt.blue
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I only know about the Simmons WTC scope. For me it has been a very good scope. It is clear at all settings and it has held a zero. This pic is about 700 yds at the 20x setting. I like this type of reticle instead of the mil dot. For the price, this scope has been great. Take a look of the reviews on the Midway site for this scope.
This is my Predator Pursuit.
This is my Predator Pursuit.
2muchgun
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Originally Posted By: bluealteredHere we go again, i have four of them and have beat the crap out of all of them. One did break and was replaced within two weeks.
Yep, ... real p.o.s. ask anybody who spent a lot more on their scope and it's not any better.
The moment you say simmons here you will get these replies, both good and bad, yes most of their stuff is junk, the wtc isn't to me. I simply take that extra money and put it in the gas tank and go hunt.blue
Some of the older Simmons stuff was okay. None of it stellar. Not even for the price, IMO. The older Aetecs were pretty good scopes. The WTCs were to a lesser extent. Then everything went to pot. And I'm talking BEFORE Simmons sold out to Meade.
I've owned close to 40 Leupolds and never broke 1 of them. At least a dozen Weaver Classics with no issues. And that is a kind figure. The last 2 Simmons Aetecs suffered broken reticles in short order. The last WTC stopped tracking altogether. I have seen several Simmons fail at the range also, when helping hunters sight in their rifles at our club. Also a bunch of Tascos, and a bunch of BSAs.
Simmons are a crap shoot IMO......
Yep, ... real p.o.s. ask anybody who spent a lot more on their scope and it's not any better.
The moment you say simmons here you will get these replies, both good and bad, yes most of their stuff is junk, the wtc isn't to me. I simply take that extra money and put it in the gas tank and go hunt.blue
Some of the older Simmons stuff was okay. None of it stellar. Not even for the price, IMO. The older Aetecs were pretty good scopes. The WTCs were to a lesser extent. Then everything went to pot. And I'm talking BEFORE Simmons sold out to Meade.
I've owned close to 40 Leupolds and never broke 1 of them. At least a dozen Weaver Classics with no issues. And that is a kind figure. The last 2 Simmons Aetecs suffered broken reticles in short order. The last WTC stopped tracking altogether. I have seen several Simmons fail at the range also, when helping hunters sight in their rifles at our club. Also a bunch of Tascos, and a bunch of BSAs.
Simmons are a crap shoot IMO......
Orneryolfart357
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If you arent a bench rest shooter, why not give it a try? Afterall the last Egg shoot winner from this forum was using one when he took the trophey! Id say a Box of ammo is worth the cost before plunking down lots of dollars on a much more high dollar scope just so that you may be praised by your peers. As long as you see what you are shooting at, who cares what the rest sees? Good luck
Powerfisher
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I bought one new 10 or so years ago before I knew any better. Its been good to me. It was on my Savage 30.06 and its now on my 700 30.06..... Holds zero fine as long as you dont bump it too hard. Walking through the brush, no problem. Gun rack on a quad, nope......I put it in a soft case and cargo-bungie to my rear quad pack.
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Looks like a mixed bag, hhmmm, I hate to waste my time/ammo or worst case the scope falls apart.
"Holds zero fine as long as you dont bump it too hard.", a $100 plus scope shouldnt have to be sighted in more than one time, I hate a no zero hold'n scope, if a man drops it hard I can see have'n to but if a bump throws it out...mite be a deal killer rite ther.
I'd really like to use it because it has some great features & is clear & bright as daylight,it seems like the perfect glass for my .243, I need to find the reveiws someone mentioned.
Thanx guys.
"Holds zero fine as long as you dont bump it too hard.", a $100 plus scope shouldnt have to be sighted in more than one time, I hate a no zero hold'n scope, if a man drops it hard I can see have'n to but if a bump throws it out...mite be a deal killer rite ther.
I'd really like to use it because it has some great features & is clear & bright as daylight,it seems like the perfect glass for my .243, I need to find the reveiws someone mentioned.
Thanx guys.
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I do have a Simmons 6-24x44 Master series SF w/mildot & target dials on one of my .223s and have had no issues at all with it. No problem tracking, view is darn clear, been in the snow/rain/dust/mud/dropped out here and still keeps ticking along. Dial up to shoot 700 yards then back down to 100 most times p-dogging and hits every time.
bluealtered
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Like i said at the start, just the name will start a good/nogood debate.
So look at it this way, on sale it's $109, thats about one tank of gas for me. So it was worth a shot, and it turned good. Instead of spending $2-$300 on a simple hunting that i knew would get beat up, i got what i needed for $109, and used the rest for gas to hunt. Works for me, blue.
So look at it this way, on sale it's $109, thats about one tank of gas for me. So it was worth a shot, and it turned good. Instead of spending $2-$300 on a simple hunting that i knew would get beat up, i got what i needed for $109, and used the rest for gas to hunt. Works for me, blue.
2muchgun
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A scope that "holds zero as long as you don't bump it too hard" is completely useless IMO. I mean, how do you know if it is on or not if you do bump it some? Not worth my time at all. Sounds like something I would fling into the woods.
We have a Simmons 44 mag that is on an old Vanguard 22-250 for about 15 years now with no troubles. My good buds have a few of the older Aetecs, about 4-5 of them, that we also bought about 15 years ago @ $99 a pop. No troubles. One of them gets used quite a bit and still takes deer/yotes every year.
That said, the more recently made Simmons products I've known have simply not been good at all. They have been especially bad on anything that kicks much at all. The last 2 Aetecs I saw both suffered broken reticles on their first trips to the range. One was on a 30-06, the other on a .50 Knight Muzzleloader.............
We have a Simmons 44 mag that is on an old Vanguard 22-250 for about 15 years now with no troubles. My good buds have a few of the older Aetecs, about 4-5 of them, that we also bought about 15 years ago @ $99 a pop. No troubles. One of them gets used quite a bit and still takes deer/yotes every year.
That said, the more recently made Simmons products I've known have simply not been good at all. They have been especially bad on anything that kicks much at all. The last 2 Aetecs I saw both suffered broken reticles on their first trips to the range. One was on a 30-06, the other on a .50 Knight Muzzleloader.............
the older Whitetail Expeditions were about the best scope out of Simmons.
I don't know why but Bushnell who owns Simmons now continues to get the Whitetail Classic made in the Phillippines wich is GOOD. The WTC is a decent scope for $99.00.
Myself I'd dig a bit deeper for Weavers new 40/44 6.5-20X44.
I own 3 and they are a good bang for the $$$!
I don't know why but Bushnell who owns Simmons now continues to get the Whitetail Classic made in the Phillippines wich is GOOD. The WTC is a decent scope for $99.00.
Myself I'd dig a bit deeper for Weavers new 40/44 6.5-20X44.
I own 3 and they are a good bang for the $$$!
Originally Posted By: 2muchgunA scope that "holds zero as long as you don't bump it too hard" is completely useless IMO. I mean, how do you know if it is on or not if you do bump it some? Not worth my time at all. Sounds like something I would fling into the woods.
We have a Simmons 44 mag that is on an old Vanguard 22-250 for about 15 years now with no troubles. My good buds have a few of the older Aetecs, about 4-5 of them, that we also bought about 15 years ago @ $99 a pop. No troubles. One of them gets used quite a bit and still takes deer every year.
That said, the more recently made Simmons products I've known have simply not been good at all. They have been especially bad on anything that kicks much at all. The last 2 Aetecs I saw both suffered broken reticles on their first trips to the range. One was on a 30-06, the other on a .50 Knight Muzzleloader.............
You've got older Simmons Phillipines made scopes. Decent scopes for the money especially Aetecs and Expeditions.
The switch to production in China killed Meade Optics and I'm Glad! Weavers back home at ATK, Leupold bought the Redfield name and Bushnell who I don't care for anyways bought Simmons and there Chinese stuff
We have a Simmons 44 mag that is on an old Vanguard 22-250 for about 15 years now with no troubles. My good buds have a few of the older Aetecs, about 4-5 of them, that we also bought about 15 years ago @ $99 a pop. No troubles. One of them gets used quite a bit and still takes deer every year.
That said, the more recently made Simmons products I've known have simply not been good at all. They have been especially bad on anything that kicks much at all. The last 2 Aetecs I saw both suffered broken reticles on their first trips to the range. One was on a 30-06, the other on a .50 Knight Muzzleloader.............
You've got older Simmons Phillipines made scopes. Decent scopes for the money especially Aetecs and Expeditions.
The switch to production in China killed Meade Optics and I'm Glad! Weavers back home at ATK, Leupold bought the Redfield name and Bushnell who I don't care for anyways bought Simmons and there Chinese stuff
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Powerfisher
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Not defending the Simmons at all but what I meant by not bumping it too hard was that it doesnt lose zero when in the field under normal hunting situations. If the rifle slides off anything and hits hard, I will recheck the zero (as you should for any scope that has been knocked). Sometimes its good and sometimes its off a tad but still minute of vitals. If I put it on my quad, the continuous vibration will knock it off zero eventually. The recoil does not change the zero.
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Originally Posted By: 2muchgunYes, they are of the Phillipino persuasion.
If you want to get technical about it, I'd say the Gold Medal Silhouette and V-Tac scopes were the best Simmons ever managed to produce. Both were a far cry from anything they have produced in the last 12-15 years or so......
Yes they had Japanese made glass. I might still have a Japanese made Simmons Target model. I loose track of rifles and scopes once in awhile. They're around here somewhere! LOL
really I guess it's so hard to keep up when these companies are bought and sold anymore. New owners can go by a good rep while moving production and short changing a model you can't keep track.
They chase labour costs like Pentax is doing now.
Leupold is your best bet if yer keepin it for the long haul!
If you want to get technical about it, I'd say the Gold Medal Silhouette and V-Tac scopes were the best Simmons ever managed to produce. Both were a far cry from anything they have produced in the last 12-15 years or so......
Yes they had Japanese made glass. I might still have a Japanese made Simmons Target model. I loose track of rifles and scopes once in awhile. They're around here somewhere! LOL
really I guess it's so hard to keep up when these companies are bought and sold anymore. New owners can go by a good rep while moving production and short changing a model you can't keep track.
They chase labour costs like Pentax is doing now.
Leupold is your best bet if yer keepin it for the long haul!