Smaller, lighter 223 suppressors?

Back when I first got in to using suppressors it was all about caliber specific cans and most everyone had 22, 6.5, 30, some even had 338 caliber suppressors. Originally I didn't want a 30cal can and my first three centerfire suppressors were a TBAC 223P-2, SAS Barricade 6.5 and SAS Vengeance 338. As suppressor technology has advanced the 30 cal cans have gotten quieter and lighter across the board on all calibers and you are seeing more and more guys getting a 30 cal can and using it on everything 30 caliber and smaller.

I never would have thought this to be the case a few years ago but my lightest and quietest centerfire suppressor is the Dead Air Nomad LTi XC I got a few months ago. It's noticeably quieter then my Banish 30 and lighter too. The Banish 30 isn't a bad option though and gives you the option of running it as a 7 or 9 inch configuration with the same suppressor.

Some suppressors have end caps that will allow you to screw on a smaller caliber one but just changing to a smaller caliber end cap when the baffle stack has a larger caliber hole doesn't really have that much affect of noise reduction and if you're swapping that suppressor around on a variety of different rifles has always seemed like a good way to have yourself a bad day because you forgot which end cap was on it.

For a one and done suppressor that covers everything from 30 caliber down and is a very quiet can without being to heavy or large something like the DA Nomad Ti XC would be at the top of my list. It's nice to have a variety of different cans to use but a Nomad LTi or Ti XC could have eliminated having 3-4 of my others and saved me a lot of money.
 
Ive looked into the Nomad Ti XC, I do like the idea of that. Barricade 6.5 came out around the time MN went silencer legal, thats what I was going to get before I got distracted for a few years.
 
If your AR is a 16" barrel with carbine gas length you're almost certainly gonna be disappointed with just about anything except maybe a flow through suppressor. Especially if your scope relief puts your eye close to the charging handle, it'll blow gas right in your eye and the port noise will also be loud. Found all this out the hard way.
 
They certainly won't eliminate it but installing a gas blocking/diverting charging handle definitely helps with not getting so much gas blown back through the charge handle when using a can on your AR.
 
I have a yhm fat cat. Use it for gp ar15 work & coyote hunting. Its light, compact, and stays outa the way. Reasonably quiet, my gemtech tracker 30 is quieter, but alot longer
 
if these companies were proud of their cans they would publish the decibel ratings and the round they used.
 
I don't know how far apart we are, but you are welcome to try both my cans. 556 Sig and 300 Harvester. Neither are serviceable, that will be my next one so I can use on rimfires.
 
Decibel ratings are subject to types of equipment used, placement of the equipment, etc.
Published DB ratings don't mean a whole lot unless tested by the same equipment, set up, and ammo, and verified by second party as numbers can be tweaked simply by moving equipment around.
 
I am running an Omega 300 on a .223 bolt gun. With a direct thread mount and 5.56 end cap, the Omega is 6" long and 14 ounces. A couple of additional ounces can be shaved with a titanium direct thread mount and titanium end cap. I don't have a sound meter, but very effective at reducing muzzle report. Fairly compact and light, compared to most. I use that suppressor on all of my centerfire rifles. Rated to .300 Win, direct thread mounts and end caps are available for most calibers. An ASR mount adds almost an inch and some weight, as does the break that replaces the end cap. Lots of options.
 
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I don't know how far apart we are, but you are welcome to try both my cans. 556 Sig and 300 Harvester. Neither are serviceable, that will be my next one so I can use on rimfires.
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Sorry, I just saw this. Im up in the southern Mille Lacs area, I sure wouldnt mind hearing some suppressors.

I just paid and picked up all my hemi parts from the machine shop yesterday. The engine will keep me distracted for a month or two, spring is my busiest time of year so I will have more money to burn and the car project wrapped up by then.
 
I switched from an Omega 300, Q Thunder Chicken and Trash Panda to caliber specific cans by KGM. The Thunder Chicken was quieter on my bolt guns I think. When shooting an AR the KGM is so much nicer on the gas blowback.
 
So if I had to do it over again, I would have bought two 30cal cans. I bought a 223 can and already had a 30cal can and the 30 can is so much more quiet, not that I don’t like the 223 can but it’s louder.
 
I like my fat cat. Does good, not quite as quiet as my 30 cal gemtech tracker on my 223's but it's a lot smaller & full auto rated. About the same Dia. As ar handguards.
I bought it mainly for hunting & plinking, wanted something suited to my 16" ar's
 
I just ordered a Banish 30 from Silencer Central. Free tax stamp and couldn't pass it up. After shooting my Aero 30 L on a 22-250 and it's about like a pellet gun I was sold since wait times are down.
 
As a matter of interest are you guys able the buy silencers from overseas, I myself have a pair of Stalon sound moderators, one for the .223 and 22/250 and another for my 6.5x55, they are made in Sweden, but DPT mods from New Zealand are also very popular over here, both makes are quite lightweight. Both mods retail around £300, so about $375.
 
Over here they can't be shipped across state lines without a FFL and your local police force needs to be notified 7 days in advance before it can be shipped. Don't know the overseas details but probably like thermal. Wouldn't want to get caught doing it.
 
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