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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Wal-Mart Stores Inc, the world's largest retailer, unveiled plans on Monday to film its gun sales in the United States and create a computerized log of purchases in a bid to stop guns falling into the wrong hands

Wal-Mart, which is the largest seller of firearms in the United States, agreed a 10-point code, which also includes rigid inventory controls, with a bipartisan coalition of Mayors Against Illegal Guns led by New York's Michael Bloomberg.

The retailer said it will develop a first-of-its-kind computerized crime gun trace log that will flag purchases by customers who have previously bought guns later recovered in crimes.

"Wal-Mart currently uses a strong point of sale system," said J.P. Suarez, senior vice president and chief compliance officer of Wal-Mart. "This code is a way for us to fine-tune the things we're already doing and further strengthen our standards. We hope other retailers will join us."

The Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership is designed to strengthen the points in the gun purchasing system that criminals have exploited in the past, Wal-Mart and the Mayors Against Illegal Guns said.

According to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, 46 percent of its criminal gun trafficking investigations involved cases in which someone who is not legally allowed to purchase a firearm does so through the use of a proxy, known as a straw buyer
 
I think Wal-Mart should lose it's number 1 spot as largest gun seller. Support your local mom & pop shop or some other retailer. A friend of mine had a shop in OK. If someone came in with a new gun and scope wanting him to mount it or look at some "little thing" wrong, he'd ask them if they got it at Wal mart. If they said yes, he'd tell them "have them work on it for you"
 
Guess those of us that dont make straw purchases or use guns in crimes dont need to worry. In case everyone has forgotten every major gun store has cameras and all gun stores keep records. We should be happy they are attempting to help enforce laws that are already on the books and not lobbying for new ones. After all isnt the NRA always saying thats what needs to happen? I cant believe how often we gun owners attack our own. At least walmart is selling guns and not donating millions to the antis like most of the companies we buy other products from.
 
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Well, I've got to ask, does anyone in here actually own or shoot a Walmart quality type firearm? I think I'd revert back to the spear /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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Well, I've got to ask, does anyone in here actually own or shoot a Walmart quality type firearm? I think I'd revert back to the spear /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif



Well, I'm not sure what you mean but, a Ruger is a Ruger, a Remington is a Remington, etc.. I can't see a major firearms manufacturer selling seconds to Wally World at discount prices to get rid of them. Perhaps they do though, I don't know, I just can't see ruining their own reputation that way.

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Well, I've got to ask, does anyone in here actually own or shoot a Walmart quality type firearm? I think I'd revert back to the spear /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif



Time to do some homework buddy. You can order just about any firearm you want (within reason) from WalMarts gun catalouge. I bought my Howa Thumbhole by ordering it from WalMart and suprisingly enough, it was the same gun they sell EVERYWHERE else. Same goes for Remington, Winchester, Weatherby, etc.

Heck you can even by Brownings, Rugers and Benelli shotguns. Just because they slap the cheapest guns in the case behind the counter, doesn't mean they don't offer other guns, which by the way that case usually holds a Remington 870 and that's only sold about a GAZILLION times and is the same gun at Mom and Pops store.

Go to WalMart and ask to see there ordering catalouge. You'll be suprised at all us folks shooting WalMart quality guns. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
Wrong, I stopped shooting bargain basement quality sticks yrs ago when I became financially capable of procuring "custom builds" only. Class adjourned./ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif
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Time to do some homework buddy.

 
So what you are saying is that there are only two types of guns, Wal-Mart quality or custom builds like the type that you can afford?
 
Many companies (Ruger and Remington for sure) make special product lines that are available only at Walmart. Thats not to say they're any worse than the normal models (Ruger makes a 10/22 with a longer barrel available only at Walmart) but it also doesn't mean they're any better (Remington makes a model 710, sold at Walmart, that is a vastly inferior to the model 700 or most any rifle for that matter).

I've never bought a gun at Walmart and never will. The only thing I do occasionally buy there is ammo. And Walmart is no friend of gun owners. They've already caved and stopped selling guns in many of their stores. The fact that this was done in conjunction with Bloomberg (pronounced flaming liberal/gun hater) is proof alone that this is not just an honest crime prevention tool but another step towards a national gun registry.
 
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Many companies (Ruger and Remington for sure) make special product lines that are available only at Walmart.




Please show some proof of that statement if at all possible. You'll spent quite a bit of time searching for any proof that isn't hear say.

I believe WalMart's distributor is Sports South llc., which also distributes to a BUNCH of other dealers throughout the country, to include BassPro and various MOM and POP shops throughout.

If anyone's dealer, brother, uncle or Mom and Pop store has said that WalMart sells different guns, it's strictly because they are pissed at the fact that WalMart can and will sell them cheaper.
 
soreloser, I'm not trying to start a pissing match, but Wal-mart does sell different guns, in addition to the regular product lines. Do a little looking yourself. Walmart lists a Ruger 10/22 with a 22" barrel, but Ruger's site doesn't list such a gun. Walmart also stocks the Remmy 710 (or 770, as it looks like the 710 has been replaced). I haven't seen another store that stocks the 710 as it is an inferior product (ie, some internal parts are plastic as well as the trigger guard).

I'm not part of the Walmart-bashing bandwagon, I shop there quite often, but they do sell different products (in addition to normal product lines) because they are marketing towards people who can't or don't want to spend more money on a rifle or don't know the difference in quality in certain instances. Yes, you can order all types of guns, but you can go to any sporting goods store and find it in stock usually, and often at the same price or cheaper. And make no mistake, they are not supportive of the 2nd amendment, especially when they deal with Michael Bloomberg!
 
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soreloser, I'm not trying to start a pissing match



I understand that and thanks.

and I guess not having solid proof other than someone saying it's TRUE isn't really that big of a deal compared to most things going on in the world today
 
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I haven't seen another store that stocks the 710 as it is an inferior product (ie, some internal parts are plastic as well as the trigger guard).


If you saw one gotchanow, then so be it. I said, as quoted above, Walmart was the only store I have been in that STOCKED the 710. I have a Cabelas a mile down the road and I haven't seen 710's, but your store may be different. Like it or not, Walmart has deals with many companies, not only guns (for instance they have the sole rights to sell Garth Brooks latest record), to sell products available only at Walmart. Walmart is not the only major retailer that has such deals, this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. I didn't say just because a product is sold only at Walmart they are inferior (but in some cases, like the 710, they are).


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I cant believe how often we gun owners attack our own. At least walmart is selling guns and not donating millions to the antis like most of the companies we buy other products from.



Not sure what you mean, Walmart is not one of our own (meaning gun rights advocates), they have already stopped selling guns and many stores across the nation. This newest idea was dreamed up by Michael Bloomberg, one of the biggest gun confiscation advocates in the country. The point of this thread (I think) was to show another retailer folding to pressure from the left and gun-control freaks. As for me, I try and avoid any company that supports gun control in any way, shape, or form...even though sometimes they are the only option.
 
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So what you are saying is that there are only two types of guns, Wal-Mart quality or custom builds like the type that you can afford?




ive never been in a walmart and have bought most of my guns at mom and pop stores, but hopefully someday ill be able to afford something better than these crappy savages /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif
 
I said at least they are selling guns and not donating millions to antigun groups like alot of the companies Im sure you are buying from or actors you are watching in movies. Who cares if they are videoing sales and keeping records they all do it. They just made the mistake of making it public. Im a law abiding citizen and I dont have anything to hide.
 
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I said at least they are selling guns and not donating millions to antigun groups like alot of the companies Im sure you are buying from or actors you are watching in movies. Who cares if they are videoing sales and keeping records they all do it. They just made the mistake of making it public. Im a law abiding citizen and I dont have anything to hide.



Do you work at Walmart, or are you just try to start something?
1. They all DON'T do it, some may, but not all.
2. If you have nothing to hide, I'm sure you won't have a problem with the police randomly searching your house as well.
3. They AREN'T selling guns in a lot of their stores.
4. I have no proof or reason to believe it, but it would not come as a surprise if Walmart was donating to anti-gun groups.

With your line of reasoning, it is no surprise our civil liberties keep being eroded...."because you shouldn't have anything to hide". You must also agree then that people in D.C. should submit to random home searches if they "have nothing to hide". Do you think Bloomberg is just trying to enforce the laws on the books? This is not an attempt to enforce laws, it is another step down the road to gun registry/confiscation, just too bad everybody can't see it for what it is. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
Actually I despise Walmart not as a company but all I ever hear spoken in there is spanish and its like fingernails on a chalk board so I avoid it when possible. Im trying to figure out what part of the second amendment is violated by what walmart is doing? I am a firm believer in the second amendment but how is your right to keep and bear arms being denied by what walmart is doing. As was said above its a waste of money for them to do it of the hundreds of thousands they spend on this they may have one or two criminals caught making straw purchases so who gives a rats butt if they video you making a purchase, if you think for a second that your local sports warehouse cant produce a video of you buying a gun for several months after the purchase and wont willingly turn it over to law enforcement your a fool. If you buy a gun that is later used in a crime rest assured they will be knocking on your door all the walmart system will do is make it a little quicker.
 


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