#$%&*? {SOME} Postal workers

canislatrans54

canislatrans54

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Why are SOME Postal workers so dang lazy?? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

Sometimes my mailman is so irritating...like today!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
I had placed several envelopes in the mailbox {@ the curb} this morning...raising the silly red flag for pick-up.

My neighbor had company parked in front of her mailbox when the mailman came by, but there was 3-4 car lengths open in front of mine.
But did he stop & get my mail? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif NO!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
He just drove on to the next house & stopped to deliver their's.
Then went to the next house & stopped to pick up mail, since their flag was also up!
Then there are times when, with basically the same parking situation, he won't stop to deliver...even if he has several items!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
If he can't reach the mailbox from the truck...just the perfect way...he'll just keep on going! He's not disabled in any way. [I know since he owns the rental house down the block] So why can't he get out of his little truck & walk a few feet to do his job? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I know of several folks, men/women, who park their trucks @ the curb & walk-deliver the mail for a couple [or more] blocks @ a time. Why can't everyone have this same ethic of "get the job done right"? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

For clarification: I am only ranting about certain mail-carriers...definitely no where all of them. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Thanks for letting me rant a little. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
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So why can't he get out of his little truck & walk a few feet to do his job? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif




That's easy.......it's against Postal Regulations. So....he IS doing his job....by the regulations that allow him to KEEP his job.

He is not allowed to leave the vehicle FOR ANY REASON unless he LOCKS IT UP. Plain and simple. And if he deviates from that, he could/would lose his job.

My Dad worked for the USPS for many years. They are regulations oriented, and get the rules shoved down their throats on a daily basis.

Also, it is up to the carrier to determine if he has a "reasonable approach to the box" to deliver/pickup. It's his call. If you are having this problem on a consistent basis, then you need to call the local Postmaster and have him come out and assess the situation. If there is indeed a problem that he agrees with the carrier on, then your only alternative is to eliminate the offending vehicle. And the USPS cannot/will not do that for you. You will either have to come to an understanding with the owner of the auto, or else get the local law enforcement involved.

Pain in the arse, huh?
 
Another crazy postal service story:
A good buddy of mine was a postal carrier for years and was in an accident one morning. Some crazy driver came around a corner too fast, lost control, and cracked into my buddy. The ambulance came, but he could not leave until someone else from the postal service got there to transfer possession of the mail. Fortunately, he was not banged up too badly.
 
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Yep, it's a real pain. And in my opinion...stupid. But it is only my opinion & I'm just an old redneck anyway.



Hope you didn't think I was saying you are wrong. I agree with you that the world would be a better place if we ALL went the extra distance to do our jobs better, and to help one another along the way. The guy is just doing what he has been told and protecting his income. Believe me......if you haven't worked for the USPS, you have no idea what the employees have to deal with. It's either RIGHT, or it's WRONG. There is absolutely no middle ground, and no room to make decisions. Basically, it's by the regulations, or you're outta there. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
No, Hidalgo, I knew what you were saying. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I guess I need to question the PostMaster again. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
He had told me today, when I went in to complain...that there wasn't any reason why my carrier couldn't get out of his truck & pick-up/deliver, even if the mailbox was blocked. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
I guess the old motto of "Rain, snow, or dead of night will not keep us from our appointed rounds", {or something to that effect /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif}, has been outgrown. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
One of my friends called me the other night and during the conversation he was talking about his mail carrier. Kinda the same story. His neighbor sometimes parks his work vehicle a few car lengths away from my friends mail box. Evidently the mail carrier thinks he can't get his little buggy in and out of the space safely so when this occurs he pulls up and honks his horn three times and if my buddy doesn't come out to get his mail immediately, the mailman drives off. The crazy thing is he's on a dead end road in a very nice subdivsion with very little traffic. It would be easy to pull up, step out and make about three steps and put the mail in the box. I don't know, I guess like everything else there are good ones and bad ones. I do know this, Hildalgo is right about the carriers catching a lot of flak from the administration and the tight regs they must follow. I know the carriers are often watched secretly, they're timed on their routes, even their steps are counted when walking the route. I know a mail guy that was chastised and written up because he didn't cut through yards when walking the route to save a few steps, thus minutes on the route. Instead he walked the sidewalk around the flower beds and maincured lawns so as to not anger the homeowners. And he got in trouble for doing what he felt was the right thing. If he did cut across the lawns I promise the folks in that particular neighborhood would complain. Damned if you do, damned if you don't! My guy will receive a small Christmas gift from us as I appreciate his hard work. Same for the trash guys too. The latter guys are over worked on a nasty job and underpaid. A little gift card won't hurt us and may help them feel slightly better about the job they do.
 
GC...

You are so right! I have always given little Christmas "bonuses" to my service people. My trash collector is now one of my hunting buddies! Like you said, they are overworked and underpaid for a tough job. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

Nikonut /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
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For clarification: I am only ranting about certain mail-carriers...definitely no where all of them.



I am starting to wonder if this bs is more the norm than the exception.

I recently bought a house in an older neighborhood. All of the houses in the neighborhood have either letter boxes on the porches or mailslots in the doors. When we moved in, we were told we had to install a mailbox at the curb and the post office began withholding our mail. Knowing that we were not the only ones to have moved into the neighborhood recently, I started to ask around. I have come across four neighbors who have moved onto the block within the last year, one of which moved in three weeks before we did. None of them have been told this and all of them have mail delivered to their door.

I have spoken with the assistant Postmaster, but he won't even acknowledge the issue (he must working for a promotion). I have tried several times to speak to the Postmaster, but he is never there. It must be nice to have that job. My latest attempt, they told me that he works 8 to 5, but he came in early that day, so he went home around 1:00. How early would the Postmaster come in to be able to go home at 1:00?!!

I am frustrated because what this boils down to is that I am being told that my only options to receive mail are to install a mailbox at my time and expense or to pay for a P.O. Box and pick up my mail myself. Why should I pay to receive my mail when no one else in my neighborhood was required to do this. The most ridiculous thing about this situation is that I share a driveway corridor with my neighbor, so everyday, we watch the letter carrier get out of her vehicle, walk up our driveway, and deliver mail to our neighbor, whose mailbox is on their house of course, just like everyone else's.

It seems that if they are so regulation bound, they should be a little more consistant with the "rules".

By the way, my signature line does not apply to this situation. I think they would shoot back!
 
But as you said, he can get OFF HIS A%$, and lock the vehicle and walk the few feet to place the mail and DO HIS JOB. What this breaks down to is, just another GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE!, in a GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY! Bet the UPS or the Fed-EX guy could figure that one out. Just my 2 cents....JOHN
 
I can agree with you that service in the Post Office has gone to hell in a hand basket. But it is not the Letter Carriers fault, blame the management not the local Postmaster but all the way to Washington. That Carrier that breaks the rules to provide the service that they should, can and has gotten fired. If he gets outs out of the vehicle and locks it to deliver the mail because the box was blocked he broke the regulation. I am retired Lettter Carrier, I hear the horror stories of the stuff they go through. Postmaster not being in his/her office is highly likely, a lot of the Post Offices have people on the clock 24 hours a day. The Postmaster is responsible for all 24 hours of operation, his butt is in the same sling as the Letter Carrier on following regulations. And most likely it will not improve.
 
I have basically done away with mail. I usually ignore the crap that is in the mailbox. Aside from netflix, this hunt, and several christmas cards this year, I haven't received a "letter" in several years. I get a couple monthly bills, but aside from that, nothing.

Do away with the mail. I can do without the Wal-Mart circulars.
 
Similar problems with trash pickup. I used to live in a certain SW city where trash collectors were city employees. There was a weight limit for trash cans and when exceeded the trash collectors did not have to empty them into the truck. I don't think I need to go any farther with this story as you get the picture. I now live in an area that has private trash pickup. Our regular trash man is a little guy and I don't care what is in a trash can or how much it weighs, he throws it up into the truck w/o question. Private enterprise?

That reminds me I need to get a good bottle of whiskey for that guy for Christmas.
 
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I can agree with you that service in the Post Office has gone to hell in a hand basket. But it is not the Letter Carriers fault, blame the management not the local Postmaster but all the way to Washington. That Carrier that breaks the rules to provide the service that they should, can and has gotten fired. If he gets outs out of the vehicle and locks it to deliver the mail because the box was blocked he broke the regulation. I am retired Lettter Carrier, I hear the horror stories of the stuff they go through. Postmaster not being in his/her office is highly likely, a lot of the Post Offices have people on the clock 24 hours a day. The Postmaster is responsible for all 24 hours of operation, his butt is in the same sling as the Letter Carrier on following regulations. And most likely it will not improve.



Very, very true. I was a Postmaster and you have it exactly right. I finally got so fed up with the ridiculous rules I quit and went to self employment. One of the best things I ever did. There are great people working in the Postal Service, but management is really screwed up.
 
1.Is the postal service still under the auspices of the Federal gov? If so, why can they raise stamp rates, etc to ridiculous levels without congressional approval /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif 2."letter carriers?' they are only allowed to carry a certain weight amount------------ask your local carrier what that amount is.3. Why can't they get out of their vehicles to put mail in your mailbox after it snows EXCEPT to leave a postal note to clear the area around the box so they can reach it from their window /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
1) No, the USPS is a "separate" entity, not on the "federal" budget. It under the oversight of the Board of Governors, they raise the rates.

2) I don't remember what the weight rate is, but, they are bound to obey the regulations or are fired.

3) The carriers should not be getting out of the vehicle to leave a note but place it in the box from the vehicle. They usually carry a stick to reach the box.

Thats the way it once was, I am not certain of current regulations. Most carriers do a great job, but they are bound to obey the rules or not work. If a carrier were to be injured or some other incident while out of the vehicle in an unauthorized situation......you don't want to go there. It would be Hell ascending to the surface of the earth.
 
Point 3.HMMM, So because a Postal Union rep. sez they shouldn't get out of the vehicle??-------------That must be why the Veterans Administration sends my parcels to me and other Vets here by FEDEX in these here boonies. Guess FEDEX and UPS are allowed to pull in my driveway, walk to my door and deliver it to me. Rain, sleet, snow or dark of night. Gee,what a stupid fool I was to think that my mailman was allowed to do that /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
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