Statewide TN Coyote Club?

TNFarmer

TNFarmer

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Is a Statewide coyote hunting club in Tennessee?

If not, is there enough interest and expertise out here to start one?
 
Im would be interested...we need to check the TWRA manuel to see if its allowed, /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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we need to check the TWRA manuel to see if its allowed



TWRA... Now that's funny /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif but I'm a'feared only the TN guys will get it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif


I don't know of any statewide clubs. It might be hard to get set up and running as we are a scattered bunch but if it would help the sport I would be interested. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif



Chet
 
Good to see this thread started... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif I tried to start a Chapter of The National Predator Callers Association. It didn't go anywhere because they wanted $25 from each person, and we had to meet every month. Most of the guys I talked to just didn't want to meet every month, or pay $25 just to say they were in a predator callers association. Now I have settled on The Mid South Predator Callers Association. I am making it FREE, and we would meet every other month. I made it "Mid South" because I am smack against Arkansas and Mississippi an I hope to get some guys from both states. I hope to interest NWTF and DU in letting me hold predator seminars for their members. I have given seminars in the past at Bass Pro Shops here in Memphis, but it has been a couple of years. I had started a membership drive back then, only to have the manilla envelope with all the paperwork in it stolen with my truck! I had done very well, I only had around fifty guys (and girls) signed up. I hope that the rest of ya'll "volunteers" will join me. I have the ear of TWRA right now (I can explain later) and want to get some stuff changed. I want to night hunt... I want to use a centerfire YEAR ROUND (if I'm not allowed to use a .22cal centerfire on deer, why can't I use it for coyote?)... etc! I am starting to get some backing from some companies (they will remain nameless until I finalized everything) and I hope to get some more guys that KNOW something about predator calling. I am getting about five calls a week from guys that talk to someone that knows I predator hunt. All they want is information, so I point them here. I would love to get together with you guys! Please email me!!!!!!!!
 
I'd be interested in something like that as well.

Sure would be nice to put something like that on your "Coyote Calling Card". Make ya sound more professional at the very least. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
To all who are interested please send me your email addresses and I will start getting ya'll added to my member list. The more people we can get, the better. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I've sent you my email address and am interested in pressing some of the changes you've mentioned. Hopefully, others from around the State (Tennessee) will join in too. We do need to join forces if there's any chance of getting some changes to the current regulations that do discriminate against non-deer hunters.
 
whats the TWRA got to do with it ? the more they are left out of the picture the better things are. i'm sure there are clubs formed without informing them.
 
He's not talking about asking TWRA if we can start a club.

He's talking about banning together to get some of these idiotic laws changed that affect predator hunters.
To do that, you have to talk to TWRA.
 
I talked with our 2 of our local gamewardens yesterday, and ask several question that just wasnt clear with me about our laws. For example, can we use a .223 during deer season, because our laws state that nothing less than a .24 caliber can be used during deer season. They both were not sure, and needed to do some checking. Some folks make laws and do not even take into consideration how to inforce them.


Cornpone I was making a funny...notice the face after my post???
 
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To all who are interested please send me your email addresses and I will start getting ya'll added to my member list. The more people we can get, the better. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif




Check your pm. I sent my e-mail.
 
Great response guys... thanks for the messages! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif I will be sending everyone an overview of what we are planning to do with this little gem! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
The TWRA regs are very simple when it comes to hunting coyotes with rifles - the following paragraphs are from the 2005 Tennessee Hunting & Trapping Guide:

Rifles or handguns loaded with center-fire ammunition are prohibited during all deer, bear, or boar seasons for hunting any wildlife except deer, bear, or boar. Coyotes, crows, groundhogs, beaver, feral hogs, foxes and bobcats may be taken by big game hunters while hunting big game with any legal big game weapon or ammunition. (Page 7, Illegal Weapons, #5).

A legal weapon for hunting deer, bear, boar, and feral hogs using centerfire ammo must be .24 caliber or larger, in all counties except where regulated by legislative acts (#2, Deer Bear, Boar and Feral Hog Hunting, page 6).

Essentially, we cannot use firearms using center-fire ammo for hunting beaver, bobcat, coyotes, feral hogs, fox, groundhogs, and crows during during deer, bear or boar seasons (#5 Small Game Hunting, Page 6, '05 Hunting & Trapping Guide).

Rifles or handguns loaded with center-fire ammunition are prohibited for all hunting between 30 minutes after sunset to 30 minutes before sunrise. (Page 7, #4, Illegal Weapons).

Possession of shot larger than No. 4 is prohibited when hunting all wildlife except waterfowl, coyotes, and beaver. (page 6, #4, Ammunition).

Shotguns using ammunition loaded with BBB (0.19 inch diameter) or smaller shot are legal for hunting coyotes and beaver except during big game seasons (Page 6, #2, Small Game Hunting).

Shotguns using ammunition loaded with single solid ball or rifled slugs are legal weapons during deer, bear, boar, and feral hog hunting (Page 6, #1, Deer, Bear, Boar and Feral Hog Hunting).

Oh, and don't forget: The use of predator calls while night hunting any species is prohibited (Page 7, #1, Prohibited Acts). How do we set up and get predators to come to us at night without using a predator call?

So, let's see if I have this right: unless there's a special legislative act for a particular county, during a deer, bear, or boar season we cannot legally hunt coyotes using any caliber center-fire rifle or a shotgun loaded with anything but a single solid ball or rifled slug.

Now, I could hunt coyotes if I lied about being in the act of hunting big game and then legally kill a coyote with a center-fire of .24 caliber or larger or a shotgun loaded with a single solid ball or rifled slug. Course, I'd also have to have the orange and $28 annual big game gun supplemental license, in addition to the $28 combination license. Or fork out the $136 for a sportsman's license. Under these conditions, we have to lie to law enforcement personnel about our intented game animals (if asked) and pay for licenses we don't need for hunting just coyotes.

How much simpler can coyote hunting regulations be in Tennessee?
 
TNFarmer... I think you just outlined everything wrong with the predator hunting regulations in TN. I think the licensing issues are the key to it! Why would they want us to only buy the $28 small game when they can force us to pay the extra $28! I sell TWRA licenses every day, I can't tell you how many guys didn't have the money to hunt every season they wanted to this season! When I give them to total on the Small game, big game gun, archery, and big game muzzle loader at $28 each. They look at me like I just spoke a mix between Chinese and Greek! I would bet that I had to take at least one of them off around 10% of the time. Are these guys not hunting one of these seasons? I would bet they are not...
 
JAMaidens, I didn't outline everything that's problematic with TWRA's regulations affecting coyote hunting, but it is a start. License fees may be one factor influencing the current regulations, but I think the major reason for the restrictive regs is to make enforcement of big game regulations easier for the field enforcement personnel.

Catch any hunter in the field during a big game season and it's very easy to tick off the list of regulation requirements. Throw in variations of those regs., which coyote hunters would like to see implemented, and big game enforcement becomes a little more work and potential poaching increases. Like, is there a deer population deficit in this State that would cause the management agency to need as restrictive deer regulations as we currently have? I think not. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
I think we could kill a doe a day for the rest of the year and not impact the deer population... good point on the regulations. As posted above most of the officers don't know a lot of the regulations... that worries me. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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