Sub-Sonic 22 cal ammo

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Swany383

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I was at the store today and came across some sub-sonic 22 ammo made by aguila the bullet weight is 60gns and I think think the MV is right around 900-1000fps, Would this ammo be effective on yote's that are close say under 100yrds? They are a solid rnd nose so I think there should be good penetration, also the bullet looks to be quite long and I was wounding if the bullet would "tumble" when it hit's, I don't think it would expand much but if it does "tumble" it should make a good wound chanel? I realize that this would not be good long range round but it has me woundering.
 
I honestly doubt it unless your close enough to smell the coyotes breath. Ive used subsonic ammo squirrel hunting with pretty poor results and it failed to drop a woodchuck in my backyard over the summer /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
I tried it in my 10/22 once. It was really puny stuff. Honestly, I dont think it would stop a charging hamster. May be OK for the occasional grasshopper or beetle. Save your money.
 
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Good ground squirrel round. Used the CCI CB shorts to take care of the 13 striped ground squirrels in our back yard. Would also use them on rabbits out to about 10 yards.

Wouldn't use it on anything bigger than a small rabbit. Sounded like a pellet gun out of my Marlin 39A.

Tim
 
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I tried it in my 10/22 once. It was really puny stuff. Honestly, I dont think it would stop a charging hamster.



Good one! I'm still chuckling over that one! Hooooweee! I think I spotted my underwear. You got some big hamsters in Idaho I give you that. Hee hee! I may have to use that one.

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The only S.S's I've tried are the Remingtons and the 60 gr Aguilas. The Remingtons will drop a grey squirrel in his tracks with a shoulder shot @ 65+yds(still got him in the freezer) and they shoot very accurately out of my Remington 581 bolt gun. I only tried the Aguilas on paper(sort of)@ 25 yds. It seems like they might have the punch for squirrels(but probably like the Remingtons, with a distinct rainbow trajectory past 25-30 yds)but even at 25 yds, my gun won't group them any closer than 1-1.5 feet...yes I said feet. In my gun, the Remingtons and CCI Stingers always shoot the same POI except for elevation(naturally), grouping around an inch or a little more. The first shot with the aguilas was way right. I tried another and it was just as far left. The next few randomly went high-low-left-right...after 10 rounds of the Aguilas, I stopped trying, because it was pointless.

I'd guess the problem is likely that the long bullet just won't stabilize with the twist rate that most .22 lr's have. If you had a .22 with a faster twist(1-9 or 1-10 maybe?)you might have something for squirrels. Even if they shot beautifully, it's not even remotely a coyote round, unless he's on your back porch, and even then I wouldn't want to count on it. If you MUST use a .22lr for coyotes, I'd suggest something like the CCI Stinger,Quik-Shok, or Velocitor...now those things have some smack @ 50 yds. They dent the heck out of my spinner target /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Judging by some of the replies, I think a few people might be confusing the 60 gr."Sniper Sub-Sonics" with the "Super Colibris" which have a 20 gr lead bullet and no powder, just the primer charge. The 60 gr round would stop a charging hamster no problem...if you could hit it.
 
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Jack
 
I've been using Remington Sub-Sonic HP's on 25-50 yd. gophers with great luck. Does that count?

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I've been using Remington Sub-Sonic HP's on 25-50 yd. gophers with great luck. Does that count?

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Me too, plus for ferrel cats and bunnies.

As per the Aquila 60gr. Sniper Sub Sonic, I have tried them in 4 or 5 different .22's, and at the 18 yards of our indoor shooting range about half of them hit the target sideways (ie tumbling before they arrive at the target).

As per shooting a Coyote with a .22 LR Rimfire, well I wouldn't recommend it. Heck I know guys that think the .223 is on the light side for Coyotes.

Can a Coyote be humanly killed with a .22 LR, absolutely, but only under ideal conditions. A few years back I snuck up to 40 yards of a young Coyote that was sitting on a rock along side a river starring into the water. I put a Remington Sub Sonic Hollow Point right between his eyes, and he never so much as twitched. In my opinion if you can restrict your shots to 50 yards or less and can be absolutely certain of putting the shot right between said Coyotes eyes, yep the .22 LR will work.

Typically under hunting conditions it is a different ball game though.

Larry
 
Subsonics (CB caps) are my go-to for dispatching "restrained" animals.

Headshots: bullet goes in, bullet rattles around.

Anything over point-blank: get a faster bullet.
 
Let me share my experience w/ the Aguila 60grn SSS 22LR,this ammo require 1:9 barrel twist. My Thompson Encore is set up w/ 14" threaded matchgrade heavy barrel, suppresor, TruGlo 3-9X 50 BDC scope and utilizing the Encore synthetic stock. I have taken ground hog out at 60yd.,a deer thru the boiler room at 75+ yards and consistantly hit 1 1/2" steel plate target at 80yds. Chrono-922-940fps, this is my favorite 22lr out of my collection. All you hear when fired is the hammer fall and the loud thump of the bullet strike, no keyhole on target. The barrel is perfect setup in length and twist. Semi-auto fps varied too much to stay consistant. Barrel is custum made. I dont suggest hunting deer w/ 22lr but it was on my farm land and I needed to answer my ?s on the SSS 60.
 
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I was at the store today and came across some sub-sonic 22 ammo made by aguila the bullet weight is 60gns and I think think the MV is right around 900-1000fps, Would this ammo be effective on yote's that are close say under 100yrds? They are a solid rnd nose so I think there should be good penetration, also the bullet looks to be quite long and I was wounding if the bullet would "tumble" when it hit's, I don't think it would expand much but if it does "tumble" it should make a good wound chanel? I realize that this would not be good long range round but it has me woundering.



Actually... you are kidding right? If not, why on this green earth would you want to use such a round on coyotes when there about a gozillion or more better rounds? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
I'm with GC.. Give me a break.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

Why in the world would you want a 22lr to go even slower. I bought a box of subs once and still have all but 4rnds.. They suck. Yeah I said it, they are sorry.. If you want to shoot butterflies and be the Hathcock wing slayer then good.. But I think coyotes will bite you for that kind stuff.. LOL
 
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I agree with the rest-the 60g aguila will not stabilize out of a regular twist(1:16?) .22 lr barrel. And I still think it would be marginal for coyotes unless one had the capability of multiple fast shots at close range.

However the other 'regular' subsonic ammo like Remington, RWS, Eley, and Lapua are great for grey squirrel hunting. That is what I use in my modified 10/22 and they are the cat's meow. They are quieter and seem to really put a hammer blow on squirrel. I can generally hear the bullet hit with a big 'whump' and the squirrels seem to be thrown out of the tree.

SilentBang-that is a nice set up you have with the fast twist Encore and suppressor. I would like to have one of those myself. TnTnTn
 
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However the other 'regular' subsonic ammo like Remington, RWS, Eley, and Lapua are great for grey squirrel hunting.



Exactly the point. The poster asked about coyotes, not squirrels. As tough as a little grey squirrel is, add about 30+ pounds of pure grit and it's obvious to any thinking person a sub-sonic rimfire isn't suitable. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
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I agree with the rest-the 60g aguila will not stabilize out of a regular twist(1:16?) .22 lr barrel.



They won't stabilize out of a 16" twist, but I do shoot them out of a 14" twist, and the are a hoot!

I have a Remington 40-XB rimfire target rifle with a 26" long, 14" twist barrel. The 60gr Agulias do stabilize in a 14" twist, and are very accurate and easily hold less than 1.5" at 100 yds.

Velocity is 850fps, and if you don't think a 60gr bullet at 850fps will hurt a hamster, you got some bigassed hamsters out there.

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