sandy hicks
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A vx2 in 4x12 will get you there. Nuthin fancy. BUT it will work every time you use it. Never look through a 2000 dollar scope and you will be just fine.
Suggestions on a good optic
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whitedogone
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Originally Posted By: sandy hicksA vx2 in 4x12 will get you there. Nuthin fancy. BUT it will work every time you use it. Never look through a 2000 dollar scope and you will be just fine.
Originally Posted By: Josh1271I have a bushmaster m4 patrolman in 223/5.56. It does have the front sight post but I don't believe that's an issue as long as I get a scope mount that sits up a little higher. I'm wanting a versatile scope that I can make 500 to 600 yard shots with but also make shots 100 yards and in with. I'm not looking to kill my bank account. Just something decent that will get me started. Does anyone know of anything I should check out? Thanks in advance. Who knew Optic selection could be so overwhelming lol
We have exactly what you are looking for where I work - on aisle 3 next to the unicorns. You haven't stated what your budget is. 600 yards is a long way. If I have $1,000.00 to spend then I allocate $600.00 for the rifle and $400.00 for the scope. And the longest shot I've taken in 56 years is a little over 300 yds. The Fullfield II is a good scope. Had a 2-7 for years on a 30-30 and a 3-9 on a 30-06. A Fullfield II is not a 600 yd scope though. I have several Meopta Meopro's, a Zeiss Conquest, VX-3's, a VX-R and a Bushnell Elite 4200. They are excellent scopes but they won't get me to 600 yards.
As a previous poster mentioned, many people are over magnified and under scoped. My highest power scope is a 3.5-10x44 Meopta. Do you think a 6-24x50 scope that costs the same as a 3.5-10 or 3-9 is as good of scope? No way. It would cost twice as much. What you are paying for in nicer scopes is better glass and repeatability of adjustments. It doesn't matter who you are, you can shoot better using a lower power good scope than a higher power scope with less quality glass.
People ask what scope to buy all the time. No one can tell you. Everyone's eyes are different and people see better out of some brands of scope than they do others. As an example: I see better through Leupold than I do Nikon. I have customers that see better through Nikon glass than Leupold. I see better through a 3-9x40 Burris Fullfield II than I do a comparably powered Viper.
We have exactly what you are looking for where I work - on aisle 3 next to the unicorns. You haven't stated what your budget is. 600 yards is a long way. If I have $1,000.00 to spend then I allocate $600.00 for the rifle and $400.00 for the scope. And the longest shot I've taken in 56 years is a little over 300 yds. The Fullfield II is a good scope. Had a 2-7 for years on a 30-30 and a 3-9 on a 30-06. A Fullfield II is not a 600 yd scope though. I have several Meopta Meopro's, a Zeiss Conquest, VX-3's, a VX-R and a Bushnell Elite 4200. They are excellent scopes but they won't get me to 600 yards.
As a previous poster mentioned, many people are over magnified and under scoped. My highest power scope is a 3.5-10x44 Meopta. Do you think a 6-24x50 scope that costs the same as a 3.5-10 or 3-9 is as good of scope? No way. It would cost twice as much. What you are paying for in nicer scopes is better glass and repeatability of adjustments. It doesn't matter who you are, you can shoot better using a lower power good scope than a higher power scope with less quality glass.
People ask what scope to buy all the time. No one can tell you. Everyone's eyes are different and people see better out of some brands of scope than they do others. As an example: I see better through Leupold than I do Nikon. I have customers that see better through Nikon glass than Leupold. I see better through a 3-9x40 Burris Fullfield II than I do a comparably powered Viper.
whitedogone
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Originally Posted By: cdbWe were supposed to have a meeting about time travel and unicorn sales tomorrow but it was moved to last Tuesday.
Not true.... I wasn't there and not one showed.
Not true.... I wasn't there and not one showed.
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whitedogone
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Originally Posted By: Goe BlowALSO: https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/...sortby=ourPicks
Goe,
You make me laugh.
........Goe recomends some night vison stuff to go along with said scope.........
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPIs6z_fKngXS_ITQliLrsJQhagOrJRbkm3FN9Xs_C22_n4N7n
Goe,
You make me laugh.
........Goe recomends some night vison stuff to go along with said scope.........
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRPIs6z_fKngXS_ITQliLrsJQhagOrJRbkm3FN9Xs_C22_n4N7n
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SlickerThanSnot
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joe likes that Leapers UTG stuff. that lovely scope even comes with rings and flip up caps. all for 99 bucks. like that dude from gas monkey says "get ya some of that".
Originally Posted By: Goe BlowALSO: https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/...sortby=ourPicks
A Leapers scope...crap. From price gouger CTD...also crap.
A Leapers scope...crap. From price gouger CTD...also crap.
Cranesville Hunter
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Originally Posted By: HidalgoOriginally Posted By: Goe BlowOriginally Posted By: HidalgoOriginally Posted By: Goe Blowhttp://www.amazon.com/UTG-4-16X44-Compac...rds=utg+4-16x44
Laugh all you want guys but for the money this is a great compact scope,,,and rings included .
I'm not going to laugh, but I will say that there is NO WAY I would trust a Leapers brand scope on any of my rifles. Sorry, but their reputation precedes them ... and it's not a good reputation. A few years back and would have agreed with you Hidalgo but look a RR they used to put out the biggest pile of POOP there was and they turned it around so is the same with these scopes.And to be honest i would have never bought one till i read a artical in a gun mag about them.
An old adage that has been adopted wholeheartedly by most serious shooters is:
"Spend as much or more on the glass than you did on the rifle."
While I don't adhere to this absolutely, I have enough experience to know that bargain glass that works doesn't exist.
There's also:
"Cry once, not twice."
I have found that to be true. Not most of the time, but all of the time.
I could fund Seal Team 6 with the money I wasted over the years taking chances on equipment that was a "bargain".
Well said. I totally agree.
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Laugh all you want guys but for the money this is a great compact scope,,,and rings included .
I'm not going to laugh, but I will say that there is NO WAY I would trust a Leapers brand scope on any of my rifles. Sorry, but their reputation precedes them ... and it's not a good reputation. A few years back and would have agreed with you Hidalgo but look a RR they used to put out the biggest pile of POOP there was and they turned it around so is the same with these scopes.And to be honest i would have never bought one till i read a artical in a gun mag about them.
An old adage that has been adopted wholeheartedly by most serious shooters is:
"Spend as much or more on the glass than you did on the rifle."
While I don't adhere to this absolutely, I have enough experience to know that bargain glass that works doesn't exist.
There's also:
"Cry once, not twice."
I have found that to be true. Not most of the time, but all of the time.
I could fund Seal Team 6 with the money I wasted over the years taking chances on equipment that was a "bargain".
Well said. I totally agree.
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