Tentative 60-Day Iran Ceasefire Deal Reached, Pending Trump’s Approval
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I’m skeptical. We’re hearing about sanctions relief, frozen assets being released, reconstruction funds, “service fees” at the Strait of Hormuz instead of tolls, and even paying them just to come to the table. And even if it all actually happens, I doubt it ends up any better than the JCPOA.
Media and markets are already running with it like it’s a done deal. The sad part is we can’t even trust anything Trump says. We’ll see.
This meme leaves out a lot.
Obama's $1.7 billion wasn't a gift. It was money Iran already owned from a decades-old arms deal settlement. You can argue whether paying it was smart, but calling it a check to "fund their nuclear program" isn't what happened.
Biden's $6 billion wasn't taxpayer money either. It was Iranian oil revenue frozen overseas and restricted for humanitarian purchases. The "$16 billion" claim is mixing different pots of Iranian assets and sanctions relief into one scary headline.
And if we're keeping score, Trump tore up Obama's deal in 2018, then years later we are back at the negotiating table with Iran anyway.
In fact, JD Vance just acknowledged that Iran could potentially gain access to a reconstruction fund of up to $300 billion if it complies with the proposed agreement. The administration says it would be funded largely by Gulf states and tied to compliance, not a direct U.S. payout. That's a bigger number than anything Obama or Biden were accused of unfreezing.
The bigger question isn't whether Obama or Biden unfroze Iranian money. The bigger question is whether any administration can make a deal with Iran that they actually keep.
Right now we're hearing about reconstruction funds, sanctions relief, frozen assets, and new economic incentives again. Different administration, same sales pitch.
That's why I'm skeptical of all of them—not just Obama. We keep getting told this time the deal will work. I'll believe it when I see it.
Think about it. Most of the strikes were against military targets—missile production, launch sites, radar systems, air defenses, and other military infrastructure. We weren't systematically destroying bridges, power plants, ports, rail networks, or entire cities.
So if we're talking about a $300 billion package, it sounds less like rebuilding war damage and more like a broader economic investment plan. That's not necessarily good or bad, but let's at least call it what it is.
And here's the question nobody seems eager to answer: what do you think Iran is going to do with that money? Use it to improve the lives of ordinary Iranians? Or use it to make sure they're never vulnerable to this kind of attack again?
And if this deal is as good as we're being told, why haven't they released the actual text? Not the talking points. Not the press conference version. The meat and potatoes.
Can’t say it was bad when Obama and Biden did it, but now it is ok because Trump said so…
So if we're talking about a $300 billion package, it sounds less like rebuilding war damage and more like a broader economic investment plan. That's not necessarily good or bad, but let's at least call it what it is.
And here's the question nobody seems eager to answer: what do you think Iran is going to do with that money? Use it to improve the lives of ordinary Iranians? Or use it to make sure they're never vulnerable to this kind of attack again?
And if this deal is as good as we're being told, why haven't they released the actual text? Not the talking points. Not the press conference version. The meat and potatoes.
Can’t say it was bad when Obama and Biden did it, but now it is ok because Trump said so…
Here is the left wing version of the meme;
Not a historic “sellout,” not a clean “nothing to see here”—just early, messy reporting being pulled hard in both directions. The truth is likely sitting somewhere in the middle.
Not a historic “sellout,” not a clean “nothing to see here”—just early, messy reporting being pulled hard in both directions. The truth is likely sitting somewhere in the middle.
Trump to Obama and Biden;
$1.7 billion? That's small potatoes. If we're going to do this, let's do it right. Go big or go home. $1.7 billion was a rookie number—let's pump that up to $300 billion while we're at it. Apparently we can trust Iran this time because Trump said so.
Even state media seems to be having a hard time putting lipstick on this one.
But I get it. America doesn't have the stomach for the casualties that would come with a ground campaign aimed at seizing or eliminating Iran's nuclear program, especially when success isn't guaranteed. And despite all the tough talk, bombing our way to a decisive victory was never a realistic endgame either.
It's amazing how quickly 'unconditional surrender' turns into 'well, this was the best deal available' once the shooting starts.
$1.7 billion? That's small potatoes. If we're going to do this, let's do it right. Go big or go home. $1.7 billion was a rookie number—let's pump that up to $300 billion while we're at it. Apparently we can trust Iran this time because Trump said so.
Even state media seems to be having a hard time putting lipstick on this one.
But I get it. America doesn't have the stomach for the casualties that would come with a ground campaign aimed at seizing or eliminating Iran's nuclear program, especially when success isn't guaranteed. And despite all the tough talk, bombing our way to a decisive victory was never a realistic endgame either.
It's amazing how quickly 'unconditional surrender' turns into 'well, this was the best deal available' once the shooting starts.
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They shouldn't get a dime along with the other 177 countries our tax dollars go to!!! Only 16 countries in the works our money doesn't go to.
"Based on this, we were in a better position before the war
A new leak purports to show the text of the US-Iran Memorandum of Understanding and it's not great. From this document, which US officials have not yet commented on, it appears that Iran's negotiating position has increased while ours decreased throughout the war. In comparing terms before the beginning of hostilities to this document, there a number of areas where Iran gets relief but significant US demands are left unaddressed. I'd like to stress again that US officials have not confirmed or denied this leak and as of recording the official stance is that the terms may be released at a later date."
A new leak purports to show the text of the US-Iran Memorandum of Understanding and it's not great. From this document, which US officials have not yet commented on, it appears that Iran's negotiating position has increased while ours decreased throughout the war. In comparing terms before the beginning of hostilities to this document, there a number of areas where Iran gets relief but significant US demands are left unaddressed. I'd like to stress again that US officials have not confirmed or denied this leak and as of recording the official stance is that the terms may be released at a later date."
Since we've already referenced pallets of cash being flown to Iran, let's take a moment to appreciate the sheer scale of this proposed circus.
If you paid out $300 billion in physical $100 bills, it would take 3,000 standard pallets of cash. That's because a single pallet holds about $100 million in neatly stacked Benjamin Franklins.
A few fun facts:
- Total weight: roughly 33,000 tons of cash.
- Truckloads required: around 100–120 fully loaded 53-foot semi trailers.
- Air transport: approximately 23 flights on a Boeing 747-8F, one of the largest cargo aircraft on the planet.
- Visual scale: enough money to make "pallets of cash" sound less like a scandal and more like a major logistics operation.
Fire up the engines, boys. Fasten your seatbelts and remain seated during takeoff. Flight attendants will be serving drinks once airborne, with your choice of fish or chicken. We appreciate you flying Trump Airlines, where every frequent flyer mile earns another pallet of cash and baggage fees are measured in billions. Safe travels.
Iran to Trump;
"What part of bend over did you not understand?"
"What part of bend over did you not understand?"