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Ihunt pheasnt, grouse, woodcock, rabbit, squirrel, foxes, and just about whatever else he hunts with my jrt. he is an absolute hunting machine. gonna sratr using him for a decoy dog this year. only thing that worries me is his balls are bigger than he is! he is taller than most other jacks i see and weighs about 20 lbs. only problems i have with him: won't go in water, rarely retrieves, and won't go in a hole. I got him off my buddies parents and have watched two go in separate groundhog hole and come out with half apiece. taking mine to kansas this fall for some pheasant and yote hunting.
 
Ward - send me your email and I will get you all the JRT pic's you want. I got hundreds.

Where you out of? 2 hours aint very far and it is getting time to work the dogs on some coyotes.

Stay after them
Kelly
 
I have hunted with a JRT from Africa and it was a good dog that was used for tracking wounded game. Great dog with lots of spunk but the owner could still control him.
 
Ok. Well while I patiently wait for mine. I need to find one of these secrete kennels with hunting JRTs. Lord knows he will be hunting/outside all the time
 
I got into Plott hounds about 8 years ago, (American breed btw) introduced into bear and cat hunting by guys who wouldn't sell a dog at any price. They have a line of dogs that are all go, no quit, a$$ kicking dogs. I was wise enough to be respectful and eager to learn the ins and outs of hound hunting. They have given me 3 dogs over the years ($0), I have tried to pay them or give them dog food etc. but to no avail. I have also purchased a couple from guys that also have the same line. this line of Plotts is not registered with UKC or AKC and they like it that way.

All that to say; if a guy doesn't sell his dogs, but does hunt them hard, you can bet they are the real deal and get the job done! Do what it takes, hunt with those guys, spend some time with them, buy them a tank of gas as a thank you for showing you the ropes. You have to understand that a lot of these guys have spent many (dog) generations getting their dogs to hunt the way they do. They really don't want to be told what would make their dogs better. They probably hunt just the way they want them to. any suggestions that you are going to start out crossing them will probably be met with hostility.

I hope this doesn't come across as rude in any way, I hope you take it as how it was meant, and that is: breeders that love what they do and aren't trying to get rich at it are a rarity and should be respected.
 
Originally Posted By: j.hennesI got into Plott hounds about 8 years ago, (American breed btw) introduced into bear and cat hunting by guys who wouldn't sell a dog at any price. They have a line of dogs that are all go, no quit, a$$ kicking dogs. I was wise enough to be respectful and eager to learn the ins and outs of hound hunting. They have given me 3 dogs over the years ($0), I have tried to pay them or give them dog food etc. but to no avail. I have also purchased a couple from guys that also have the same line. this line of Plotts is not registered with UKC or AKC and they like it that way.

All that to say; if a guy doesn't sell his dogs, but does hunt them hard, you can bet they are the real deal and get the job done! Do what it takes, hunt with those guys, spend some time with them, buy them a tank of gas as a thank you for showing you the ropes. You have to understand that a lot of these guys have spent many (dog) generations getting their dogs to hunt the way they do. They really don't want to be told what would make their dogs better. They probably hunt just the way they want them to. any suggestions that you are going to start out crossing them will probably be met with hostility.

I hope this doesn't come across as rude in any way, I hope you take it as how it was meant, and that is: breeders that love what they do and aren't trying to get rich at it are a rarity and should be respected.

there is alot of truth in your post....most good ones are passed along between hunters. your last sentence says it all, good post.

BTW the plott hound is american bred,just cuz the akc reconizes them doesnt mean they come from the good old usa. the orginal came from germany so thank the fella that brought them here.
 
I grant you that the Plott's heritage is German, specifically the Hanoverian hound. The Plott is an American dog because it is not a Hanoverian and was crossed with other working dogs, probably of dubious breeding from the day, along with some Leopard curs to fill a specific need. The Plotts are much lighter and faster than Hanoverians were or are. Hanoverians weigh from 85-99 lbs whereas the Plott goes 45-55 lbs, nearly half!

I would also like to add that I have no problem with a guy charging $ for his pups... 1. if the pups are from proven parents 2. if the dogs are not, then a guy should only charge enough to cover his expenses until the cross is proven 3. if the dog is a bona fide hunter and is finished, by all means ask the going rate, regardless of heritage or registration. 4. $1000+ for a pet quality shitzu is insane and $50 for a good prospect hunting dog is a great deal.
 
Originally Posted By: j.hennesI grant you that the Plott's heritage is German, specifically the Hanoverian hound. The Plott is an American dog because it is not a Hanoverian and was crossed with other working dogs, probably of dubious breeding from the day, along with some Leopard curs to fill a specific need. The Plotts are much lighter and faster than Hanoverians were or are. Hanoverians weigh from 85-99 lbs whereas the Plott goes 45-55 lbs, nearly half!

I would also like to add that I have no problem with a guy charging $ for his pups... 1. if the pups are from proven parents 2. if the dogs are not, then a guy should only charge enough to cover his expenses until the cross is proven 3. if the dog is a bona fide hunter and is finished, by all means ask the going rate, regardless of heritage or registration. 4. $1000+ for a pet quality shitzu is insane and $50 for a good prospect hunting dog is a great deal.


again no agruments from me but lets break it down more...1 if pups are from proven parents, what is the going rate for a 8 week old pup? mom and pop are proven that doesnt mean every pup in the litter will make the cut so its still a gamble.
2 agreed.
3 if the dog if a bona fide hunter and is finished, by all means ask the going rate, regardless of hertiage or registration,define finished? there aint a dog alive that is finished,i see older dogs slip as they past there prime,but thats a different horse of course. would a "finished" 3 yr old be worth more than a "finished" 4 yr old?
4 how true
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1. I have paid $200-300 for a pup from proven parents, and it is absolutely a gamble. Regardless of the line of dogs, if someone says they don't have any culls in their litters then they are only kidding themselves. If a guy is honest with himself and recognizes a cull for what it is, every litter will probably have one or more culls. The tighter the line breeding, the fewer number of culls, generally speaking. Get too close with the breeding, and then the number of culls will increase.

I have a pup getting close to a year old, paid $300 plus shipping to have it sent out here from Michigan. Paid about $700 total, AKC registered, and I am starting to think she will not make the cut, cull. That sucks. The breeder did give me a guarantee, so I can get another pup to start over with, and will have to pay shipping, again.

3. I consider a finished dog one that has peaked in his potential. He must have been given the opportunities to learn, and hunted hard. If he is 6 y/o and still has a few holes, well, he may not be perfect, but he is finished. A three y/o that is solid may still not be finished.

A three y/o that is finished should be valued more than a four y/o due to the fact that he would have more life expectancy ahead of him. But, the four y/o may have had more hunting experience and be a little wiser, so he may be the better dog. Sorry, I guess I don't have a definite answer on that one. Dogs are all individuals.
 
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