The most carnage you've seen by a varmint gun(GRAPHIC)

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well my view on this subject is this... IF YOU DONT WANT TO SEE IT DONT LOOK..if i want to blow them to PIECES then thats my right...but mabey you would feel better about yourself if we all just used a 22 lr or short and shoot them in the guts and let them suffer till they die....at least when they go to pieces they do NO SUFFERING AT ALL...

on the subject now i have shot a ground hog with a 300 wby mag with 180 gr..ballistic tip and it litterly turned it inside out...lol NOW THATS WHAT HUNTING IS ALL ABOUT...
 
Shooting sage rats in central Oregon. Shots are often 20 yards or closer. A 50 grain Blitzking at 4000 fps makes you duck in a heavy head wind. ( Falling body parts )


SEMPER-FI Keepum out of the wire!
 
This is a Hunting website. Hunting involves Killing. Killing involves Carnage of some form. My grandchildren are seeing worse stuff than this on CNN and even on cartoons and videogames. Get over it. kyray
 
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well my view on this subject is this... IF YOU DONT WANT TO SEE IT DONT LOOK..if i want to blow them to PIECES then thats my right...but mabey you would feel better about yourself if we all just used a 22 lr or short and shoot them in the guts and let them suffer till they die....at least when they go to pieces they do NO SUFFERING AT ALL...

on the subject now i have shot a ground hog with a 300 wby mag with 180 gr..ballistic tip and it litterly turned it inside out...lol NOW THATS WHAT HUNTING IS ALL ABOUT...



That's what hunting is all about??
 
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well my view on this subject is this... IF YOU DONT WANT TO SEE IT DONT LOOK..if i want to blow them to PIECES then thats my right...but mabey you would feel better about yourself if we all just used a 22 lr or short and shoot them in the guts and let them suffer till they die....at least when they go to pieces they do NO SUFFERING AT ALL...

on the subject now i have shot a ground hog with a 300 wby mag with 180 gr..ballistic tip and it litterly turned it inside out...lol NOW THATS WHAT HUNTING IS ALL ABOUT...






It is quite obvious that everyone was brought up with different morals and hunting ethics.

The way that I was raised, Hunting was known as anticipation, hard work, and dedication.

The anticipation of the hunt...Waking up the morning of the hunt realizing that what you are willing to do that day is take the life of another living thing.

The hard work of getting set up in the proper location, working the wind to your advantage, keeping your rifle clean, sighted in, and shooting well. Getting to bed early and waking up the same, making it quietly to your stand, and taking every possible moment to be sure that you have everything that is necessary for the day.

The dedication, of realizing that every day you could possibly not get a shot off at your query, you might not even see it. A true hunter stays dedicated to the "sport" or hobby and will return for a better day. He realizes that it takes time and skill to become a successful hunter or sportsman, and is willing to make the sacrifice of the time.

It is understood that a hunter is taking the life of another living thing, but it is how he respects the animal that he kills. I know many hunters that say a prayer, YES, a prayer after killing an animal. They are proud to have been able to to learn the ways of another animal. They are proud to have known that they have come out on top. They realize that hunting is a privelege and NOT a right.

Quite obviously, everyone is brought up with different morals and ideas about hunting. What a fool I have been for not realizing this.
 
falcon. Well said. I'm sure most of us agree with you 100%. I don't care to see guts all dangling out of a dead critter, but I do want to see what different bullets will do to different critters, damage wise. In the past, I have changed bullet type and loads based upon a picture and description of a badly damaged varmint. I've even changed guns once before. It's just a part of hunting. When you kill an animal or bird, do you not inspect first for bullet damage, to see how your round performed? Some people are going to be offended no matter what we do as hunters. I have a neice who is a school teacher, animal lover extreme, who thinks I'm the Devil Himself! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I don't cut her any slack when she come to visit either. To me, hunting is a proud heritage. I can handle what comes with it, good or bad. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif kyray
 
kyray, I do agree with you in what you said about checking the animal for damage to see how your current setup has performed. I find it totally rediculous to buy a whole box of ammo just to see how it will perform with your weapon. One would end up with ammunition crates upon crates...of ammo that did not perform properly.

I totally understand what you have said with everything on CNN and other news broadcasting agencies...It's amazing how they can influence society.

Thanks Kyray, at least one person agrees with me~
 
falcon four:

I thnk maybe you're trying to blend two different ideas into one and make it all appear the same.

In my instance I pulled the picture of a PD simply because I did not want to get into a Pixxing contest with someone over a picture - which is where I saw your original post going. No other reason.

When I HUNT anything, I can relate to all you talked about on your earlier post about the idea of HUNTING which I think most who frequent here understand. The game really is not important whether its elk, deer, or any other animal - large or small - that you HUNT. The hunting is the important part - not the killing. And yes, I have HUNTED eastern rock chucks.

I have never HUNTED prairie dogs in my life. I SHOOT prairie dogs on ranches as a favor to the ranchers who allow me to do it since their presence is a nuisance and a financial burden to the ranchers. My only obligation to the PD is to kill it quickly which is much better than it running off and dieing 20 minutes later. As a result - sometimes this results in carnage.

What I am going to say next deals directly with why I took the picture. I hand swage my own 20 caliber bullets and had never seen a PD opened up like that one, and so I took the picture. Commenting about it like you did to try to make your "ethical point" that anyone posting similar picture makes them a slob HUNTER - and you a moral and righteous person - is a real stretch. And understand, I did not say this to appease you since you seem to think assessing bulllet damage is OK and posting a certain picture otherwise is not.

As someone stated earlier, the Anti's don't need a picture to foster what they want to do to all of our rights. They have no plans to take my rights away and leave you yours because you and they feel you are more ethical. That's kinda' like saying Bin Laden will notify all the Muslims in America in a certain area that he is going to finance another terrorist atack on America. He really doesn't care who he kills to further his cause - neither do the Anti's.

We're all entitled to our beliefs. I'm just not sure we need to be trying to establish moral levels among generally like minded people with our beliefs, however. Especially when we use one idea that most all of us understand to condemn another that many of us understand through having done it - like SHOOTING PD's. - BCB
 
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Yes, it may be interesting to see photo's of this...I particularly have no problem seeing them, but this is an all ages website(if there was a note saying you must be 18, I missed it.) I find it amazing that moderators don't seem to care about this.



Where have you been Mr. Four, living under a rock? We edit pics all the time or haven't you noticed? Go back to the beginning of this thread and look at Randy Merta's post, it's been edited by yours truly. The Mods and Pro-Staff here do care whats posted. It's not so much of the dead animals we are concerned with as it is all the blood. What we would like to see is photos that are in good taste. A little blood at times is OK but not the massacre ones. I know you guys know what I'm talking about. This issue regarding this board and what get posted vs. whats gets edited is like beating a dead horse, it's been around for a long time. Just do some searching. I do a fair share of PD shooting myself and do enjoy a great explosion now and then but you don't see me or us posting the pics either. Hunting and good taste without all the blood can happen. The best trophy photos out there show no blood at all.
 
Ranutah, The photo that I mentioned were posted for a few days. By the time that I made the reply, hundreds of people have already viewed the post...the damage was already done. After seeing that there were that many people who viewed the thread, I assumed that there would have been moderators who have looked as well. I guess that's what I get for assuming. I understand that you guys probably aren't getting paid for moderating these forums and can't sit here and babysit everything that goes on. Just figured that with such a "catchy" name, it would have drawn the attention to some of you guys moderating it. This being said, I am not pointing the finger at anyone...just stating my observations. I will not reply to this thread again, if you have any questions that you want me to reply to please private message me and I will be more than happy to answer. Have a good day.
 
not a varmint gun but i shot a muskrat with a 45-70 at about 25 yards with the 300gr. hp it was bad he wasw blew all to pieces
 
I've hit two woodchuck over the years and turned them inside out. Most of my shooting is from the bench, and I use a lot of Sierra 52gr. HPBT Match bullets. They aren't meant for hunting, but I load them anyway since I always seem to have so many on hand. Usually it's small hole in, small hole out (if any). Occasionally I'll strike bone in the chuck, and it plays merry old hell with them. It really becomes a gruesome kill. Best wishes.

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i can say personally that i am not bothered by pictures of varmints blown to peices, because i know they died quickly.
the pictures that really upset me are those ones where IDIOTS take countless shots at a deer, with a big gun and then post pictures on the internet of a deer thats been gut shot at least 3 times.
this isnt aimed at anyone on this forum, it is concerning another one that i am no longer welcome on for stating my opinion on this matter.
 
I ussually try to take my 300RUM with 180gr. Scirrocco's for woodchucks,Definitely instant death.Nothing a 100gr. of Retumbo can't cure.
 
Also not a varmint gun--480 Ruger 325gr gold-dot 25yds-I believe it was a blue-jay before I pulled the trigger! Absolutely nothing left!--2MG
 
Doesn't anyone ever take any pictures? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif When it said graphic I expected blood and guts! Here's a ground squirrel from last week. Shot with a .223 using a 40 grain V-Max at about 150 yards. This was one of the ones I could find a large piece of. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
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I guess the most memorable vapor-shot I've had was on a PD hunt on HWY 44 in South Dakota.

I was shooting prone from one PD town to the next and while I was scoping out the distant town(with my rifle scope), the scope just blacked out! I raised my head to check it out and there was a PD about 2-3 feet in front of the muzzle! I just looked through the scope to be sure it was still blacked out and squeezed the trigger! The area covered by that PD was about half the size of the average living room! Just spray, nothing solid!

I was using a Remington M-600 in 6mm Rem with 70 grain HP's!
 
Hope you had a towel--2MG /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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