Thoughts on .25-06?

Originally Posted By: stomperWhat are some of the other differences?

the 243 winchester is a 308 winchester necked down...
the 25-05 remington is a 30-06 springfield necked down.
both are sweet.....both are very flat shooting...
300yd point blank rounds.......
25-06 = a 85g bullet @about 3500fps
or a 120g. bullet @ 3100 fps
the .243 = a 55g. bullet @ about 3900fps
or a 95g. bullet @ 3050 fps
and there are plenty of other bullet choices out there...
for either one...these are what I consider normal...

The 243 has the reputation as a grand ma gun, meaning
my grand ma hunts with one as well as my 12 year old
daughter.....the 25-06 is just as sweet....but
does have a little more snap to it.....not even on
the same planet as say a 3oo H+H magnum.....which
I condsider not very pleasnt to shoot.....I think
either one you'll be happy with......go look at the
guns look and the bullets get the one you like the
most.........
 
Originally Posted By: notimerThe 243 has the reputation as a grand ma gun, meaning
my grand ma hunts with one as well as my 12 year old
daughter.....the 25-06 is just as sweet....but
does have a little more snap to it.....not even on
the same planet as say a 3oo H+H magnum.....which
I condsider not very pleasnt to shoot.....I think
either one you'll be happy with......go look at the
guns look and the bullets get the one you like the
most.........
Some guys have more testosterone flowing to their brains than oxygen. I'll let you decide my meaning.

My Grandma hunted with a 45-90 WCF which doesn't compare to a 243 in recoil. My 16 year old grand daughter doesn't hunt at all. I have several friends that really like the 300 H&H a lot. So what's your point?

What would I learn from looking at guns and "bullets" that I don't know now?

???????

 
There are no flies on either catridge IMO and I've killed game with them both. I've been fortunate enough to have had the opportunity to kill hundreds of whitetail deer in my 46 years and will tell you a well placed bullet from a .243 will kill one DRT! The .25-06 is just a bigger hammer if you want to run bullets in the 120 gr.range. The .243 and 6mm Remington rank as two of my favorites and I have a very well used and blue worn Ruger 77R (tang-safety)in .243 that has put many a game animal and predator to sleep for good:) The .25-06 is an incredibly efficient cartridge with a well respected game killing history. Having both would be the best of both worlds IMO.

Good luck to ya'
 
Originally Posted By: claimbusterOriginally Posted By: notimerThe 243 has the reputation as a grand ma gun, meaning
my grand ma hunts with one as well as my 12 year old
daughter.....the 25-06 is just as sweet....but
does have a little more snap to it.....not even on
the same planet as say a 3oo H+H magnum.....which
I condsider not very pleasnt to shoot.....I think
either one you'll be happy with......go look at the
guns look and the bullets get the one you like the
most.........
Some guys have more testosterone flowing to their brains than oxygen. I'll let you decide my meaning.

My Grandma hunted with a 45-90 WCF which doesn't compare to a 243 in recoil. My 16 year old grand daughter doesn't hunt at all. I have several friends that really like the 300 H&H a lot. So what's your point?

What would I learn from looking at guns and "bullets" that I don't know now?

???????



What I mean is get what you like, both rounds rock...so you should get what ever strikes
you fancy, if you will.....he was asking about .243 vs 25-06....I say either one....
If you were shooting ground hoggs and ask about .243 vs a 30-06....I give a different
responce....I've shot both .243 and 25-06 and they are both sweet..never been able to
hold on to a .243 for some reason....seems someone always wanted it worse than me....
as far as I'm concerned there's not much difference in the two...

lets just say the dealer brought out 5 guns in those cals, get the one you like.
or lets just say your local dealer has 12 boxes of 25-06 ammo behind the counter, and only
1 box of .243 that might mean something to you, It might not....It would to me...
You did say any input....Sorry if i was vague in my responce.......
 
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Stomper,

You need to tell us what you want from the rifle.

Deer ....... coyotes .......... PD's ??????

A combo of the above?

My coyote hunting started with a .243 bolt gun .... sporter barrel. Sold it and bought a tang safety varmint barreled Liberty Ruger 77. Still have it. Killed tons of "dogs".

I needed a "tractor gun" ..... sold a Savage 99 in .250 (mistake letting it go) and bought a Remy 760 in 6mm .... it got stolen ...... and finally ended up with a .22-250 in Rem. 788. Trigger sucked and I sprang for a Canjar single set.

After much frustration, I found that the quality of the bullet can make or break terminal performance of the .22-250 on coyotes.

My best I tried ...... the Nosler 55 Ballistic tip. (I am sure the V-max would have been very good as well.

NOW, after nearly 40 years handloading and banging around after 'otes ...... I just built a Savage 110 up in .25-06 with a Stainless bull 26" barrel.

I have not hunted with it yet.

But my perception thus far is that with a big heavy barrel like my Ruger .243, this .25-06 does not recoil like I thought it would. I am sure that a sporter barrel would be much different. But I also own a .270 in a Ruger tang safety and it's light barrel wallops you much more than my .25-06 does thus far.

Now I will tell you when it comes to coyotes only and shots under 350 yds ...... a .243 will leave you not wanting.

The poorest bullet in a .243 leaves coyotes dead right there ....... simply put, coytotes don't argue with them.

The reason I want a .25-06 is that I have GREAT long range potential ....... all the distance the "law will allow" and then some ...... LOL!

And it's been years in the making for me to start to work at those great ranges as I am real fussy about "edumucated dogs".

The last four years, I have been using a CZ 527 American in .223. This is a very nice and light rifle and the cartrige is REAL THRIFTY on powder. But it does leave for some pretty good death runs. Got a couple of AR's in .223 thrown in for spice as well.

Death run IRK ME.

I can't tell you what my favorite cartridge is ...... I love them all but if I was just starting out all over again, the .243 would be REAL ....... REAL hard to pass up!

Three 44s
 
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great choice
the 25-06 is hands down the top of the line up in commercial duel purpose cartridges
a good combo is a 85 gr barnes x bullet (if you can find em)and h4831sc devastating on deer
contrary to what others say size matters
 
Originally Posted By: pieeyedI like the specs on the .257 Weatherby but ammo is spendy.

That is the reason God and Mr. Ackley invented the 25-06 AI
 
Originally Posted By: BrentWinOriginally Posted By: pieeyedI like the specs on the .257 Weatherby but ammo is spendy.

That is the reason God and Mr. Ackley invented the 25-06 AI

The 25-06 Ackley still falls short of the 257 Weatherby!
 
Originally Posted By: MOJO67
The 25-06 Ackley still falls short of the 257 Weatherby!

257 Weatherby data:

80gr. Barnes TTSX 3870

100gr. Soft Point 3602


My 25-06 AI

80gr. Barnes TTSX 3865

100gr. Nosler BT 3650

I think that its close enough to a Roy.

BTW, neither of these loads show pressure signs and both shoot sub .5 MOA

 
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Have any of you guys ever ran a 22" barreled 25-06?

Reason I ask is that I'll have my 22" 25-284 finished up in just a few weeks and I wondered what I'd be looking at, speedwise, with 80's and 100's.
 
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stomper:

You never answered the question: Do you reload?

And now my question: Do you understand the metric system vs. American standard?

Do you own a reloading manual?

Can we establish your frame of reference/knowledge so others can have an idea what you need to learn? Thanks....
 
Originally Posted By: brdeanoHave any of you guys ever ran a 22" barreled 25-06?

Reason I ask is that I'll have my 22" 25-284 finished up in just a few weeks and I wondered what I'd be looking at, speedwise, with 80's and 100's.

A 22" barrel on a 25-06 is like putting skinny tires on a drag racer. The power is there, you just can't utilize it. I don't know why most manufactures won't put any more than a 22-24" barrel on them. I bought a Savage 25-06 for my son. It came with a 22" barrel. He was 11 at the time, and his shots would be under 200yds. A couple years later, I put a 26" PacNor on it for him, so he can get all of the good out of the round.
 
I'll be looking for 3500 w/80's and 3200 w/100's. Which will be a step up from my 243's. My 22" 243 is getting 3450 w/75's and 3225 w/90's. Whether it ends up being worth it or not is still up in the air, but I'll see.

What kind of speeds were you getting from your sons rifle? Thanks.
 
I have a 270, 270wsm, 7mm08, 308 and 25 06. I would rather shoot the 06 over all of the rest. Ive got the 25 06 in a ruger m77 mark2 and it is a tackdriver. Ive shot it out to 600yds and it performs well. I reload but it really likes hornady sst's for deer hunting.
 
Originally Posted By: brdeanoWhat kind of speeds were you getting from your sons rifle? Thanks.

I didn't have a chrony at that time. I would expect 150-200 FPS less than I am getting now.
 
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I perfer the 25-06 to the 243. Both are an exellant choice for varmit/predators/and medium sized game. I feel the 25 has an advantage when you start getting out further from your target because it propels a heavier bullet at speeds almost equal to the 243's lighter bullet.

The down side of the 25 comes in the cost and availablity of ammunition. You get get 243 at most Mom and Pop stores. The 25 is a little harder to find and usually more costly. Many people also dot like the the long action stroke.

If you reload you should take a look at a 25 WSSM. Ballastically slightly better than the 25-06 and very short stroke action.
 


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