Can't get something for nothing. If ya'll take the time and effort to use the search feature you'd most likely find your answers. This has been kicked around on PM soooo many times... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
My 835 patterns like day and night with the Pattern Master and Federal premium 4 buck vs Remington or Winchester loads. The factory turkey choke did not pattern well for me either. I believe it's too "tight".
My friends 870 3 1/2 patten good with the Remington Super ful turkey choke and #4 buckshot. He has a scope on it to a just the patten.He tryed Remington 3 inch and Win 3 1/2 #4 Buck shot and both patten good. VM