trigger pull adjustment?

Randy Cloyd

New member
i have a Winchester Model 70 in 30-06
is there a way to tune down the trigger pull? can i do this myself or should i take it to a "smith"? any help in this is gonna be appreciated. thanks

------------------
Randy C
 
Yes it can be done by the home gunsmith but unless yoiu have some experience your probably better off taking it to a local experienced one. Been awhile since I worked on any of the model 70'2 but if I recall correctly most of it's done with a very fine stone and if ya go too far ya have to re-heat treat the metal.
Hope this helps
Mike
 
Just to add to Randy's question, most firearms are factory set at 2 #'s. And if I'm correct some of you go down to 2-3 oz. right?

Just wanted to get the true story. Didnt wanna walk into a gunsmiths and ask for 2 oz. and him laugh.
 
I just picked up a Model 70 in .243. The trigger pull is very easy to adjust. There is a jam nut and spring on the back of the trigger assembly. Using a little wrench loosen the nuts, and allow the sping to release preasure. You can use the trial and error method to determine the appropriate trigger pull. If it is too lose the hammer will fall without the trigger being touched. Once you get where you think it is good, put the gun back together and do every thing you can think of to make the hammer drop with out touching the trigger. If it falls, add some more tension.

There is also an adjustment for overtravel that I suggest you work with as well.

As stated in an earlier post, if you don't think you can do this safely, don't try.
 
Tommy Johnson
If you go to a gunsmith and ask him to adjust a factory trigger to 2-3oz, you will definitely be laughed at. He will probably tell the story for years.

Most factory triggers are set at 4 to 8 pounds. The better ones can usually be adjusted down to 2 to 3 pounds.

When talking 2-3 oz, Jewell or Anschutz are about the only choices.

Trust me, you do not want a 2oz trigger on a hunting rifle.

Jack
 
Randy, If your not exactly sure what you are doing I would take it to a gunsmith. I have bought new rifles that came with 8lb plus tigger pulls. That is way too much. I have a gunsmith set my trigger pull to 3Lbs on all my hunting rifles.

------------------
 
Just had Timney put a trigger in my Model 70. I told them I wanted it at about 20 ounces. They said it was 1 1/2 pounds, but when I got it home, my trigger scale says it is 20 oz.
biggrin.gif


------------------
Critr

fea6c171.jpg

www.SaguaroSafaris.com
 
Thanks for the response guys. I'm pretty mechanicaly enclined and can probably do it myself but i wanted to get some "411" on the how to's. I really appreciate all the replys. I'll give it a try and post the outcome later.

------------------
Randy C
 
Critr Gitr

The
biggrin.gif
is on you.
Do the math. Only take oyur shoes off this time.
1 lb = 16 oz.
1.5 lb = 24 oz.

1.25 lb = 20 oz

Ya lost 4 oz someplace.
biggrin.gif
biggrin.gif
biggrin.gif


I sure hope I did the math right, or I'm gonna look pretty stupid on this one.
 
I copied this off another forum.


Adjusting a Winchester Trigger

07 October 2001
By Paul "Pablito" Coburn

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


First, the disclaimer:
In the U.S.A., we live in a litigious society, and for those of you who live in Rio Linda, this means that fools will do really stupid things, and then sue someone else, because "It's their fault, they told me I could do it!".

For those of you that don't know what you're doing, STAY AWAY FROM TRIGGERS! You can hurt someone... usually someone else.

Adjusting the trigger of a new rifle was once an expected job of the owner of a new gun, just like adjusting the seats in your new car.

Remington forbids adjustment of their triggers, and doing so will void your warranty.

However, Winchester has no concerns about you adjusting their trigger, and adjusting the Winchester trigger WON'T void your warranty.

And finally, your mileage may vary according to road conditions. If you are new at guns, and lack experience to do minor internal repairs and parts replacement, then this project may not be for you.

Do not do the following unless you are skilled enough to work on guns, and responsible enough to handle them safely. I am presenting the following article as "For Information Purposes Only".

It is SOLELY your decision whether you have the skill and ability to use this information. If you have ANY doubts as to your ability to do what is described here, then take the rifle to a qualified gunsmith!

If you have an accident, it means that you weren't skilled enough, or responsible enough, so you shouldn't have done the following. So, it's not my fault, nor the fault of Sniper Country!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Winchester triggers are a piece of cake.
You will need a tiny 1/4", open ended wrench, (better to have two), and a very small screwdriver. Also, have a bottle of nail polish (pink
wink.gif
handy to lock the screw and nuts in place after you have finished all the adjustments.

Pull the action out. There are three nuts on the trigger... the two nuts that are together, hold and lock the spring that controls the "pull weight". The single nut locks the over-travel screw in it's setting.

The engagement setting is machined into the trigger bar with a gauge, and I've never had one that had an engagement problem. If your trigger has excessive creep, don't try to file it. This is a job for a very skilled trigger 'smith, and for the cost of the labor, you are better off getting an after-market trigger like the "Jewel"!

OK...

Lay the barreled action out on a clean work space (tell your wife you'll be finished before dinner).

With the 1/4" wrench(s), loosen all three nuts.

Start by adjusting the pull weight. Move the nut "pair" down to contact the trigger, and try the weight... if it's too light, move them up towards the action, and try again, repeating as necessary until you like it.

If the pull is too heavy when the two nuts are down on the trigger, then unscrew and remove the trigger stop.
Remove the spring, and cut off one coil. Then replace the spring, and start over again.
When you have the pull weight as you like it, lock the two nuts against each other.

Next, using the small screwdriver, adjust the over-travel screw to your liking, and lock the nut against the trigger bar.

Now, put a dab of nail polish on the nuts to hold them tight.

Don't put Loctite on triggers... use women's nail polish on triggers (pink works best
wink.gif
to hold the screws or nuts in place... Loctite can seize the small screws and nuts used in triggers, making them impossible to adjust or remove.

The Winchester nuts won't shoot loose if properly tightened, but the Remington screws WILL slowly work themselves loose over time, so they MUST have nail polish on the heads.

Finally, put it back together. Remember that the two end bolts hold the action into the stock, and require 65 inch pounds of torque (if you have a torque wrench), or to be very tight, if you just have a screwdriver.

But also remember that the middle screw is just to secure the front of the trigger guard, and hold the magazine box in place, so have it snug, but not over tight... the middle screw does NOT hold the action in place.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Back to Articles

[This message has been edited by The SIG Way (edited 02-11-2002).]
 
WOW! ask and you will receive. man, thanks sigway. thats way more than i thought i would get. you guys are really helpfull and i appreciate it.

------------------
Randy C
 
Hey Randy, Im gonna get mine proffesionaly done, but you go ahead and do yours and just hunt by yourself for a few days, then Ill go with ya.
biggrin.gif
I think...
 
I had the same problem----I bought a Model 70 Super Grade----problem was---it came with an 8 pound trigger from the factory.

I have a Zeiss scope on lay-a-way right now----once I get my scope----I'll see how she shoots.
 
If you guys are like me, most of my gun repair efforts have gone like this:

1.) I dig around for an hour and a half looking for the right tools.

2.) I proceed to disassemble the gun (while trying my best to ignore my wife's comments about my previous experience with gun maintenance and how I should be taking the gun to a reputable gunsmith.)

3.) In between her words, I hear that sickening sound of a tiny spring as it ricochets off the walls at the speed of light.

4.) After a couple of hours, I start to have a fit like a 2 year old after I can't find the spring or where it came from.

5.) I take the gun to a gunsmith and continue to try my best to ignore my wife's "I told you so" comments.

Hope this helps,
smile.gif


Rusty
 
I bailed my scope out of lay-a-way jail today. I'm still waiting for Midway to send me my rings and bases.

I went with the Leupold QRW rings and bases----does anybody have any experience with these?? Are there any little surprises I should know??

Maybe I can go sight it in this weekend-----Hurry up Midway!!!!!
 
Back
Top