Tony Thanks for the comments on the coyote,but I owe it all to you buddy...That cow horn howler that I been PM'ing you about,well thats what did it...I used a Faulks p-60 predator call for about a minute and then switched to the howler and here he came...Im sure it doesnt sound as good as yours but maybe the coyote felt sorry for me...By the way could you put me down for the black horn call on the left and I like them to sound raspy.I have never had a custom before so Im looking forward to the call when its done...Everybody should own a TT call...pm me when call is done with payment info,Thanks again,Chad