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UPDATED! It's not dead yet - Arrogant imposter will be found out
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jumprightinit
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Obama`s Father was from Kenya, and his step-father was from South east Asia-Laos i believe
His stepfather (Sottero) was from Indonesia, that is where Obama whatever his last name is went to school. What I've read is that you can't go to school there unless you are a citizen of Indonesia. Which would mean that his stepfather adopted him and he was an indonesian citizen.
His Kenyan father was supposedly married to another African women when he fathered Obama with Dunham. That would bring into question if his father and Dunham was really ever married.
Obama`s Father was from Kenya, and his step-father was from South east Asia-Laos i believe
His stepfather (Sottero) was from Indonesia, that is where Obama whatever his last name is went to school. What I've read is that you can't go to school there unless you are a citizen of Indonesia. Which would mean that his stepfather adopted him and he was an indonesian citizen.
His Kenyan father was supposedly married to another African women when he fathered Obama with Dunham. That would bring into question if his father and Dunham was really ever married.
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EastCoastHunter
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"Berg is not in question" .... well he darn sure should be! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
jumprightinit
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"Berg is not in question" .... well he darn sure should be! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Maybe but who cares about Berg, really? All any of us want to see is the Original Birth Certificate, whether it's Berg or someone else that forces the issue all I can say is more power to them. The Birth Certificate Please!
"Berg is not in question" .... well he darn sure should be! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Maybe but who cares about Berg, really? All any of us want to see is the Original Birth Certificate, whether it's Berg or someone else that forces the issue all I can say is more power to them. The Birth Certificate Please!
Rim_Runner
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"Berg is not in question" .... well he darn sure should be! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Maybe but who cares about Berg, really? All any of us want to see is the Original Birth Certificate, whether it's Berg or someone else that forces the issue all I can say is more power to them. The Birth Certificate Please!
The issue is Obama’s natural born status. Since the bulk of the allegations about his status are unproven claims from Berg then Berg’s credibility is a key factor in all this. You’re obsessing on the Birth Certificate; if he can prove his natural born status without it will you be satisfied?
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"Berg is not in question" .... well he darn sure should be! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Maybe but who cares about Berg, really? All any of us want to see is the Original Birth Certificate, whether it's Berg or someone else that forces the issue all I can say is more power to them. The Birth Certificate Please!
The issue is Obama’s natural born status. Since the bulk of the allegations about his status are unproven claims from Berg then Berg’s credibility is a key factor in all this. You’re obsessing on the Birth Certificate; if he can prove his natural born status without it will you be satisfied?
jumprightinit
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"Berg is not in question" .... well he darn sure should be! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Maybe but who cares about Berg, really? All any of us want to see is the Original Birth Certificate, whether it's Berg or someone else that forces the issue all I can say is more power to them. The Birth Certificate Please!
The issue is Obama’s natural born status. Since the bulk of the allegations about his status are unproven claims from Berg then Berg’s credibility is a key factor in all this. You’re obsessing on the Birth Certificate; if he can prove his natural born status without it will you be satisfied?
No.
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"Berg is not in question" .... well he darn sure should be! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Maybe but who cares about Berg, really? All any of us want to see is the Original Birth Certificate, whether it's Berg or someone else that forces the issue all I can say is more power to them. The Birth Certificate Please!
The issue is Obama’s natural born status. Since the bulk of the allegations about his status are unproven claims from Berg then Berg’s credibility is a key factor in all this. You’re obsessing on the Birth Certificate; if he can prove his natural born status without it will you be satisfied?
No.
Rim_Runner
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May I ask why not?
in all seriousness, my bet is that even if berg is 100% correct, nothing will come of it.
Rugershooter
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What other way is there to prove it. Ask him? Ya, right.
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1. What does your reference to Kenya and being a British subject have to do with his phony computer scanned thing on his website that says his father is African. African is not a race but a nationality as there are caucasion/white Africans. How can his fathers race be listed as African? That is not a race. Someone who made up the phoney thing on his website obviously didn't know that. How do you respond to that 1 question?
You are wrong here, African is not a nationality. Africa is a continent not a country. Kenyan, English, even German are examples of nationalities. Asian is not the name of a race but I have heard it used that way. European isn’t a race but it’s sometimes used that way.
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Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.”
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
from a web site that you really should read.
1. What does your reference to Kenya and being a British subject have to do with his phony computer scanned thing on his website that says his father is African. African is not a race but a nationality as there are caucasion/white Africans. How can his fathers race be listed as African? That is not a race. Someone who made up the phoney thing on his website obviously didn't know that. How do you respond to that 1 question?
You are wrong here, African is not a nationality. Africa is a continent not a country. Kenyan, English, even German are examples of nationalities. Asian is not the name of a race but I have heard it used that way. European isn’t a race but it’s sometimes used that way.
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Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.”
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
from a web site that you really should read.
factcheck has ZERO credibility, sorry.
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factcheck has ZERO credibility, sorry.
Then provide a link proving they are wrong on this issue.
factcheck has ZERO credibility, sorry.
Then provide a link proving they are wrong on this issue.
they blew it with their "fact check" on obama's record on guns.
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they blew it with their "fact check" on obama's record on guns.
I haven’t seen that one yet but I have no problem taking your word for it. Even if they are wrong on the gun issue it doesn’t make them wrong on how they decide what to enter for a parents race on a BC. I did see a link to an Oklahoma State Government web site saying that they use the same method.
they blew it with their "fact check" on obama's record on guns.
I haven’t seen that one yet but I have no problem taking your word for it. Even if they are wrong on the gun issue it doesn’t make them wrong on how they decide what to enter for a parents race on a BC. I did see a link to an Oklahoma State Government web site saying that they use the same method.
if they're wrong once, they can be wrong again.
in this case they were so wrong that intentional deception is the only reasonable explanation, IMHO
I don't trust them, period.
in this case they were so wrong that intentional deception is the only reasonable explanation, IMHO
I don't trust them, period.
jumprightinit
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1. What does your reference to Kenya and being a British subject have to do with his phony computer scanned thing on his website that says his father is African. African is not a race but a nationality as there are caucasion/white Africans. How can his fathers race be listed as African? That is not a race. Someone who made up the phoney thing on his website obviously didn't know that. How do you respond to that 1 question?
You are wrong here, African is not a nationality. Africa is a continent not a country. Kenyan, English, even German are examples of nationalities. Asian is not the name of a race but I have heard it used that way. European isn’t a race but it’s sometimes used that way.
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Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.”
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
from a web site that you really should read.
Well now isn't that just peachy, the parents word is taken as to what they think they are. Same with where he was born evidently. Good Source. You totally avoided the issue of 'race', is African a 'RACE'?
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1. What does your reference to Kenya and being a British subject have to do with his phony computer scanned thing on his website that says his father is African. African is not a race but a nationality as there are caucasion/white Africans. How can his fathers race be listed as African? That is not a race. Someone who made up the phoney thing on his website obviously didn't know that. How do you respond to that 1 question?
You are wrong here, African is not a nationality. Africa is a continent not a country. Kenyan, English, even German are examples of nationalities. Asian is not the name of a race but I have heard it used that way. European isn’t a race but it’s sometimes used that way.
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Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.”
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
from a web site that you really should read.
Well now isn't that just peachy, the parents word is taken as to what they think they are. Same with where he was born evidently. Good Source. You totally avoided the issue of 'race', is African a 'RACE'?
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jumprightinit
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May I ask why not?
What possible kind of proof would be as convincing as a original birth certificate . Maybe factcheck.com /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
May I ask why not?
What possible kind of proof would be as convincing as a original birth certificate . Maybe factcheck.com /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Rim_Runner
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go ahead and humor me. Why would only the original BC satisfy you?
jumprightinit
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go ahead and humor me. Why would only the original BC satisfy you?
It would offer itself up for authenticity and provide a lot of information that could be verified.
go ahead and humor me. Why would only the original BC satisfy you?
It would offer itself up for authenticity and provide a lot of information that could be verified.
Rim_Runner
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go ahead and humor me. Why would only the original BC satisfy you?
It would offer itself up for authenticity and provide a lot of information that could be verified.
The only information that relates to his natural born status is his place of birth. Looking for other information is nothing more than a fishing expedition and has no legal basis.
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go ahead and humor me. Why would only the original BC satisfy you?
It would offer itself up for authenticity and provide a lot of information that could be verified.
The only information that relates to his natural born status is his place of birth. Looking for other information is nothing more than a fishing expedition and has no legal basis.