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Gimmieabeer

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How are the dogs used when hunting coyotes??? Any special breeds? I'd like to know exactly how it is done, I'm wondering why the "dog guys" always seem to win all of the money.
 
I dont know the ins and outs of it all that well but I personally hate it. I think contests should be divided. Make the contest either a dog coyote hunt or a calling coyotes hunt. Its unfair to the guys who work their tails off all week long calling coyotes, when the dogs do all the work and chase the coyotes around and surround them while the hunter comes along and plucks the sitting duck. Just in the past Mosquito Creek tournament, out of the 78 coyotes, 46 were from dogs. To me thats just straight up unfair to the guys who call. I'm not saying its not hard with dogs too, but its clearly easier. And the hunters do just a FRACTION of the work. The dogs do 75% of the work. When I think of it I just get irritated, I better stop.
 
I also think that the mosquito creek hunt should be divided, the dog people and then the rest of us. I hunted the whole weekend with no fur to show for it. I hit the same stands on sunday as I did on saturday. Here is a quesion for you guys, I noticed on sunday that there were coyote tracks very close to where I set up on saturday, 4 separate stands. Did I not stay on stand long enough, or do you think that they came in overnight and caught my scent. Just wondering why they were so close to where I set up.
 
With the amount of snow on the ground this year I was surprised the dogs did as well. I think the dog runners have the advantage, but they are simply using a tool that the rest of us have the opportunity to use as well. Besides when you start throwing in rules and catagories they have to be monitored a little closer. Some guys might think that there should be a certain catagory for ecallers that is different from mouth calls. That is a far stretch for an analogy of dogs and no dogs but where would the break-down stop. I don't have a problem with dogs- YET!!! AND NO I DO NOT HAVE DOGS.
 
i also agree with fingerz. it sucks to work so hard to call them in and then have the dog guys to come in and take all the money. i also dont like how there are people like us that hunt all year long and see nobody else out but as soon as the hunt comes around there are people everywhere "trying" to hunt them. it messes up alot of good spots for the true predator hunters that stay with it all year long.
 
This might ruffle some feathers but you guys need to grow up and quit complaining. You sound like spoiled brats, if it is so easy killing coyotes with hounds then you guys need to go buy a couple. They use running walkers, july, trigg, goodmans and the list goes on. I think you will get an eye opening. No I don't have running hounds but I do have coon hounds and squirrel dogs. That would be like me bad mouthing the trappers, traps do all the work and the trapper gets all the fur. Or the squirrel hunter sitting under a hickory tree and kills his limit in 1 hour and never moves an inch while I follow my dogs around on a couple ridges and a couple hours to kill mine. We need to stop this childish bickering and band together. I don't care what you hunt or how you hunt it or what you hunt it with just hunt and enjoy it and be thankful that you have the freedom to do so. People that don't want us hunting just love to hear guys like you bad mouthing other sportsmen. Sorry if I offended anyone but I feel it needed said.
 
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This might ruffle some feathers but you guys need to grow up and quit complaining. You sound like spoiled brats, if it is so easy killing coyotes with hounds then you guys need to go buy a couple. We need to stop this childish bickering and band together. I don't care what you hunt or how you hunt it or what you hunt it with just hunt and enjoy it and be thankful that you have the freedom to do so. People that don't want us hunting just love to hear guys like you bad mouthing other sportsmen. Sorry if I offended anyone but I feel it needed said.


i dont think that people bashed dog hunting. they are just saying that the contests should be divided into different groups to see who are the best with the dogs and who are the best with the calls. i dont have a problem with dog hunters at all it is a differnt type of hunting that i would like to get into sometime. i look at everybody that hunts the same because we all are hunters. me and the other people on this thread just think that the contest should be divided up.
 
Sorry it didn't come across that way to me. Being a houndman I know how much fire we are under. Maybe my emotions got the best of me. Good hunting.
 
jaspa
that is the way i feel. i love all types of hunting and im sure you feel the same way. not sure how everybody else feels. i like dogs and the things they can do. i myself have beagels. im also sorry if i came off the wrong way.
what dogs do you use for squiirel huning?
 
right at the present time I have a little mixed up dog. I think she is half minature collie and half beagle. When she goes (she is 10 or 12) I am getting a couple feist pups off my buddy. He has squirrel dogs that are absolutely impressive.
 
there actually not hounds they are a small dog. And yes some of them are very good on coons. They will tree anything that will climb. My hunting buddy had his bay a bear one day. It wouldn't climb, after the little dog jumped on his back and was trying to tear his ear off he finally decided he had enough and climbed. If it hadn't been him telling me I probably wouldn't have believed it. I mean a 25 or 30 lb. dog jumpimg on a 200 lb. bears back. Sounds a little far fetched but I assure you my buddy is a straight shooter.
 
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Its unfair to the guys who work their tails off all week long calling coyotes, when the dogs do all the work and chase the coyotes around and surround them while the hunter comes along and plucks the sitting duck.


You have no idea what you are talking about. I grew up running foxhounds when I was younger. If you think running yotes with hounds is easy you are ignorant. I'm not even going to bring up all the time involved training hounds and breaking pups, not to mention the cost. Do you think you can simply let a couple of dogs out of the back of your truck and before you know it they chase a coyote up to you? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Starting a coyote and keeping up with the chase as well as positioning yourself for a shot is anything but easy. Often times coyotes will run for miles, leaving the area where they were originally started covering all types of terrain. Tracking equipment is almost a must. Hunting with hounds is a skill. not anybody can do it. I only chase cottontail/hare these days with beagles. Haven't had foxhounds in over fifteen years.
We used to run mostly walkers with an occasional redbone,bluetick or black n' tan.
I call predators mainly now. Did the same when we ran hounds as well. Think hound hunting is easy? Purchase a couple pups,train them then get back to us.
 
Yeah you are most likely correct seeing as 46 of the 78 coyotes were taken by dogs. It must clearly be harder for the dog hunters. Makes no sense to me, does it to anyone else? I never said it wasnt hard to train them, but thats with any hunting dog. Once you have them trained and they are ready to go, trust me, its easier to have dogs than to call for them. And honestly, how much "getting in place" do you think these hunters did in snow that was nearly two feet deep? Not much at best, just wait til that baby comes around. It may go off miles but sooner or later it'll come by or the dogs will corner it. Then the hunter can come by and blast it.
 
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