Utah Coyote and Redfox?!

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grayman

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Hey all,

I am new to the forum but spent a long time reading much info last night. Learned a lot.

I just have one question burning in my mind.

Where in the heck can I find coyote and red fox in Utah?!

My hunting partner and I have been searching high and low to find them but have found nothing.

Unfortunately I do not have much time to go out and scout because of work and family obligations so we have been hoping some kind soul could give us a few hints or a point in the right direction.

We are in SLC and have tried the west desert with calls and some tasty jackrabbits as bait but have neither seen nor heard any preds at freaking all.

If someone could help us out we would be very thankful.

-Grayman
 
I am not from UT but I would suggest you get at least 2 hrs from SLC.With all the compatition in and around the SLC area I dought if anybody is about to give up their huntin spots on the internet. And If I wanted to get help in the future I wouldn't be gettin all pissy. JC................
 
BAH! That is not even close to pissy. Just kinda funny. I am more then happy to help anyone who needs it, but it seems I am the only one.

-Grayman

P.S. At least I got a responce.
 
I don't live in Utah so I can't offer the kind of help you're looking for. The best way to learn this is from someone who knows it. It probably isn't a good activity for a guy who has limited time to figure out how to become sucessful at it. Like anything else worthwhile, it takes time and effort to get good at it.

I'm sure there are some predator/varmint hunting clubs in the SLC area. Find one, attend some meetings, make some new friends. Once people get to know you a little you'll be surprised what they'll share with you.
 
HEH! No, I have limited time for scouting. Not limited time to figure out how to be successful. I would love if I could take days every week to just scout out areas.

-Grayman
 
I Dont know where any are either. I've been out hunting about once a month since October. I have no useful info to give thats why I didnt reply. I have been looking back for a hint also.
 
Keep looking guys. You live in a desert...there are coyotes and red foxes as far as the eye can see! The real trick is learning how to call them in, stand selection, area conditions, etc. I personaly don't waste time scouting. I spend time hunting and driving. If I find an area that looks like it will produce, we hunt it. This little sport of predator hunting doesn't come easy and there is plenty of us in the state after the same thing. You have to put a lot of time and effort in. My hunting partner and I put in 2 years before making our first kill, after that it all fell into place for us and we produce fairly well in the overhunted west desert areas.

You need to get away from the Wasatch Front....a long way from the front. The west desert has plenty of dogs. The areas around Cache Valley hold plenty of foxes. You just need to figure it out, watch videos, etc.

I don't know of any hunting clubs for predators in the SLC area. That doesn't mean they don't exist though.

Put in the effort and it will pay off. Patience will pay!

Anoher idea is to attend the Predator Masters hunt in 2007. You will be able to hunt with some of the best in the country and learn a boat load from them.

Dogn
 
Dogn,

Thank you for responding. I would go as far to say I love you and want to have your babies but I really don't, even though I am very appreciative for the info.

Been trying the West Desert for a few months and have yet to even get a responce from my calling, but will continue.

Also, thanks for the info on cache valley. First Fox pelt I get goes to you.

Thank you VERY much for actually trying to help a fellow hunter out.

-Grayman
 
Any time Grayman! (Can't figure out how else to respond to the love and children thing...your scaring the crap out of me)!

Just keep at it and get to the PM hunt...be sure to request a guide (free of charge of course).

Post up some pictures when you get too tippen over some dogs.

Dogn
 
Grayman, I’m not real familiar with your area since I live in south east Utah. I would imagine you going to have to travel some time to get out of the city any way. First I would look for tracks in the road, this has always been a good start for me. You can’t call in a coyote in if there isn’t one there. Next follow the advice of the pro’s from this site I have learned more then I could have ever imagined.

I even made a call thanks to Mr. Tebbe. I’m sure this wasn’t much help to you, but don’t give up, sooner or later you call one in. Plus right now it is really hard to call in a coyote, especially here in the south, since the State has came in with helicopters and wiped them out for the year.
 

grayman you have to find an area that will hold
prey. Know the habits of the prey your hunting.
When you go into an area look for fox/coyote
tracks,scat etc. There has to be food cover and water.
If you can find a water source it would be
a good place to start.
 
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Grayman, I figure there is a good chance you've called some in but haven't seen them respond. Either they have hung up 600-700 yds out or you just missed them. They are out there inthe west desert, I've killed 8 since the end of January. I live south of you a bit soI go out there since it is better than not going at all....I do alot better in other places, but they are there. I've Killed coyote, red fox, and bob cat all out in the "west desert"....within 45 min. of my house.

Just keep trying my friend.

C
 
keep trying, i mostley hunt out of state because of the pressure these dogs get. in my opinion the west desert has some of the most educated dogs in the u.s. if i knew how to call them in i would be taking people out on guided hunts & all they would have to pay is the gas for my vehicle. good luck. also remember is not the kill thats important its the time spent out in the wild.
o' who am i kidding, its all about the carnage!
 
I would go to Wyoming,where you dont need a license. Evanston, Kemmerer or Cokeville. If you want to buy a Idaho license toward Pocatello. Utah has to much pressure. Snowmobile tracks everywhere.
 
grayman,
I think that alot of your problem in not finding a coyote or a fox is that, calling these animals in is not as easy as it sounds. Especially right now the coyote are breeding and they have other things on their minds other than a rabbitt dying. As hard as it is to find a place to hunt coyotes in Utah, hunters are not going to tell you where they go. They way I found my areas for hunting was by alot of scouting in the summer and word of mouth from farmers and such.
 
I am with Dogn on this one there are litterly red fox and coyotes everywhere. I go About an hour or2 away from my house and am sucessful. But remember the farther you go the better it gets. I hunt northern Nevada and I would have to say it is awsome out there. Out around galconda and winnemucca there are so many coyotes. Even around Elko.

Good luck don't get discouraged!!!
 
Grayman,

Welcome to the addiction. All good advice from the above callers. Let me throw in my two cents too....

I'd leave the coyotes alone and break out your fishing pole. They are making little coyotes now and I like to leave them alone until next fall -- unless you are doing predator control work.

The west desert coyotes have been hammered hard since last August. The ones that are left are the smart ones. They will be hard to call this time of the year-- especially with a bunny call and the dead rabbit "bait" you mentioned. I recall a "signature" on a post somewhere on this forum that went something like this: A pine needle fell to the forest floor. The eagle saw it, the deer heard it, and the bear smelled it. The coyote did all three. (wish I could give proper credit) Hard hunted coyotes (survivors) are smart coyotes.

And, finally, If I were hunting coyotes now I would go where there are no coyotes?!? Huh? Yep, I'd go up the canyons in the pines and oakbrush, where snow conditions permit, and hunt somewhere other than the desert areas. Maybe some thick, unhuntable, cedars or pines with my trusty 10 gauge. It is hard to beat the excitement of watching a small white dot bouncing toward you from 800 plus yards and then take him at 100 yards as is often done in the desert areas but this time of the year that just ain't gonna happen very often.

Learn all you can from this forum and any other sources and then get after them next September or October. You'll have better success with the dispersing pups next fall and it will give you the experience and knowledge to improve your skills.

Best to ya.
 
WOW!

Thanks for all the info guys. Seriously.

We went out again friday night and sa absolutely nothing but it was a nice night and got some experiance in.

Thanks for the advice for canyons and cedars. Been looking at some hiking info to get a good idea of where to go next and getting it confirmed by everyone has been nice.

The funny thing is that we must have run in to about 14 different Coyote hunters out in the west desert last night so I am going to have to do some scouting. 14 = just too many.

If it was some of you guys that saw me and my two companions in my red jeep cherokee, word of advice, SLOW DOWN WHEN PASSING ON DIRT TRAILS! Good hell people the dirt you kicked up blew in the window with such thickness it almost put out our smokes.

Again thanks for the info. Might do some scouting on my day off this week.

-Grayman
 
I really can't offer much than already whats been said. Utah is tough and everybody and their brother hits the west desert, however, they are there. The best advise is not to give up. If your new at the game, I'm sure that your probably making newbie mistakes. You mentioned smoking. probably not a good idea since a coyote can easly pick that up, yet I know a guy that does smoke and does ok with it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif Granted, it is denning season and the calling is tougher but coyotes don't stop eating because they are denning, something to keep in mind.
 


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