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I could be wrong I was in west central utah desert all day , should have seen alot more
Heck, I could be wrong too. You've spent more time and covered more area out there lately than I have. I did see a bunch of jacks out there a few weeks ago. But that's the only time I've been out looking lately, and that was only one area. So who knows? Maybe things aren't looking as good as I thought?
As far as the "when to hunt" thing, it just is what it is. Myself, I mostly leave the coyotes alone until later. But I'm not religous about it - I stuck one with my bow a week ago. And just flat out do not care when anyone else wants to hunt. Their business, not mine.
I would point out though, that having guys out there hammering on them this time of year is nothing new, and it's not just a "Utah" thing either. Some guys have been getting after them in August for as long as I can remember. And I know a few guys that have been out there just killing the snot out of them in Nevada the last couple weeks already too. I just don't worry about it. I figure that is pretty much how it has always been, and yet I have pretty much always been able to do alright later in the fall anyway, so no big deal. I'm not into numbers and it's not any kind of competition with other callers for me. I'm going to go when I feel like it, and I'm going to have a GREAT time. So what difference does it make to me when another guy decides to go have a GREAT time? No difference!
From my point of view, probably the biggest impact of the whole "when to hunt" deal, is right here on the internet. I stopped posting my hunt reports here several years ago. I had been out in late Sep. and had a pretty good day and posted about it. Got jumped on for hunting "too early" (by one of the very same guys on this thread now...). I decided to heck with it, not worth the drama, and I just don't post about my hunts here anymore. I think a lot of guys have gotten that way over this deal. But! Really, like I said - "no big deal".
Sorry to hijack your thread... It does sound like rabbit numbers might be down more than I thought though. Guess I need to get out and look around some more myself. Too dang hot still though! I'll wait another month and hope it cools off some first!
- DAA