Utards??
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Originally Posted By: cetIts all in good fun!
When I lived in Mississippi, we made fun of Alabamians.
I moved to Colorado, they made fun of Texans and Californians.
Then moved to Iowa, they made fun of Missourians.
I moved to South Dakota and made fun of Minnesotans.
Now I'm in North Dakota and they make fun of Canadians....and Montanans!
Life's too short, you gotta laugh at someone!
No one speaks bad about South Dakotans....Just too good of people living here!
I'd say till the economy went to [beeep] we did complain alot more about Minnesotans road hunting pheasants. Now I'd say locals are more of a problem than anyone.
I can say that this is the first year in my lifetime that I never caught anyone poaching/trespassing on my land. I hope this trend continues.
I've hunted Nebraska and found the people there to be really helpful, and gracious offering up their land for us to hunt.
I hunted Montana a few times and hunted public, but the people we met while there were nothing but friendly.
When I lived in Mississippi, we made fun of Alabamians.
I moved to Colorado, they made fun of Texans and Californians.
Then moved to Iowa, they made fun of Missourians.
I moved to South Dakota and made fun of Minnesotans.
Now I'm in North Dakota and they make fun of Canadians....and Montanans!
Life's too short, you gotta laugh at someone!
No one speaks bad about South Dakotans....Just too good of people living here!
I'd say till the economy went to [beeep] we did complain alot more about Minnesotans road hunting pheasants. Now I'd say locals are more of a problem than anyone.
I can say that this is the first year in my lifetime that I never caught anyone poaching/trespassing on my land. I hope this trend continues.
I've hunted Nebraska and found the people there to be really helpful, and gracious offering up their land for us to hunt.
I hunted Montana a few times and hunted public, but the people we met while there were nothing but friendly.
Nickj1980
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Not sure how hard to bite my tongue... This is really a sore spot with me.
Let me start by saying that I grew up in Utah. Road hunting was the norm, but other than that I was raised to do things by the book and ethically, as I'm sure a lot of other Utahns were. But having hunted in several states, I feel like I have a good feel for how things are done elsewhere and I can say that some things that are "the norm" in Utah are frowned upon or are downright illegal in a lot of other states...
For example, if you're driving your suburban down a back-road with 6 guys on the roof with arrows nocked in Colorado and the game warden sees it--you're all getting a ticket. In Utah he'd probably ask if you had seen anything.
Just in the last year I've had 3 bad experiences here in CO with hunters from Utah. During the 3rd rifle season, one almost caused me to wreck because he had parked his MegaCab Dodge diagonally across a major county road on a blind curve to watch some elk. There was a great big pullout not 50 yards away with nothing obstructing his view. He didn't even flinch as I went in the ditch to get around him.
During the archery elk hunt I ran into a group from Vernal that had broken down a BLM Road Closed sign and winched out a huge log that was blocking the road, and then cut a 4 strand fence across it to drive their 4 wheelers into an area that takes me an hour to walk into. Then they started trying to call elk within 30 seconds of killing the engine while still sitting on the atv... I confronted the one who actually walked away from his atv about driving it in, and he proceeded to tell me that last time they hunted the area the road was open and that it wasn't really closed now. I've been hunting it for 5 years and it's never been open in that time.
Not a week before that, I talked to some ol' boys from Southern Utah who had drawn some pretty good archery deer tags. One of them nonchalantly told me how he had "stuck" 3 bucks opening weekend but they "must not have been good hits" because he couldn't find blood after the 1st hundred yards. He said 2 were big 4 points, one of those was over 30" wide. This was at Sportsmans Warehouse in Grand Junction where he was buying new broadheads and arrows because he had run out of both. After watching the deer in that spot all summer I was a little pissed at the thought of them going out that way... I just shook my head and told him I hoped he killed one soon so maybe someone else would get a chance at the ones that were left. He laughed like it was a joke.
I'm not saying that all or even most Utahns are that way--not at all. But the ones that are that way are blatant and arrogant about it. It's also true that there are people like that everywhere and I've had a few similar incidents with Coloradans over the last few years, but oddly not as many. That's about as nice as I can say it.
The bad part for the good Utahns (and I will say again, most Utahns are good) is that when I find out someone is from Utah, chances are I won't be as helpful as I might be for someone else because I'm afraid they'll disrespect it and there's no way of knowing if they're a Utahn or a Utard.
It's not about "my" state vs "your" state or whatever--It's about you respecting my state and its laws, and me doing the same when I'm in your state.
Only you know for sure, but if you're offended, you're probably "that guy".
I should have bitten my tongue harder...
Let me start by saying that I grew up in Utah. Road hunting was the norm, but other than that I was raised to do things by the book and ethically, as I'm sure a lot of other Utahns were. But having hunted in several states, I feel like I have a good feel for how things are done elsewhere and I can say that some things that are "the norm" in Utah are frowned upon or are downright illegal in a lot of other states...
For example, if you're driving your suburban down a back-road with 6 guys on the roof with arrows nocked in Colorado and the game warden sees it--you're all getting a ticket. In Utah he'd probably ask if you had seen anything.
Just in the last year I've had 3 bad experiences here in CO with hunters from Utah. During the 3rd rifle season, one almost caused me to wreck because he had parked his MegaCab Dodge diagonally across a major county road on a blind curve to watch some elk. There was a great big pullout not 50 yards away with nothing obstructing his view. He didn't even flinch as I went in the ditch to get around him.
During the archery elk hunt I ran into a group from Vernal that had broken down a BLM Road Closed sign and winched out a huge log that was blocking the road, and then cut a 4 strand fence across it to drive their 4 wheelers into an area that takes me an hour to walk into. Then they started trying to call elk within 30 seconds of killing the engine while still sitting on the atv... I confronted the one who actually walked away from his atv about driving it in, and he proceeded to tell me that last time they hunted the area the road was open and that it wasn't really closed now. I've been hunting it for 5 years and it's never been open in that time.
Not a week before that, I talked to some ol' boys from Southern Utah who had drawn some pretty good archery deer tags. One of them nonchalantly told me how he had "stuck" 3 bucks opening weekend but they "must not have been good hits" because he couldn't find blood after the 1st hundred yards. He said 2 were big 4 points, one of those was over 30" wide. This was at Sportsmans Warehouse in Grand Junction where he was buying new broadheads and arrows because he had run out of both. After watching the deer in that spot all summer I was a little pissed at the thought of them going out that way... I just shook my head and told him I hoped he killed one soon so maybe someone else would get a chance at the ones that were left. He laughed like it was a joke.
I'm not saying that all or even most Utahns are that way--not at all. But the ones that are that way are blatant and arrogant about it. It's also true that there are people like that everywhere and I've had a few similar incidents with Coloradans over the last few years, but oddly not as many. That's about as nice as I can say it.
The bad part for the good Utahns (and I will say again, most Utahns are good) is that when I find out someone is from Utah, chances are I won't be as helpful as I might be for someone else because I'm afraid they'll disrespect it and there's no way of knowing if they're a Utahn or a Utard.
It's not about "my" state vs "your" state or whatever--It's about you respecting my state and its laws, and me doing the same when I'm in your state.
Only you know for sure, but if you're offended, you're probably "that guy".
I should have bitten my tongue harder...