WARNING!...to all call makers and other site advertisers

This is being discussed on several boards right now as you read this.
Were not the only ones being taken by the fella.

My motive with this thread was to protect our advertisers because it's becoming more and more apparent that this individual get's around.
Lawsuit against PM?? phffffft ...add us to the other sites that have come to know and are discussing it. I'm running out of printer paper... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif be right back.
 
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--as long as I BELIEVE IT TO BE TRUE,I can say it--game over.




Yup, you are right. Game over. Because you are completly wrong.

It must be true in substance. Unless you can prove that, you loose.

Game over.

Al
THO Game Calls
 
Well Doc. Holliday, a Moderator on his board said he was going to send a check for a call. He said it was going out on a Thursday. I mailed the call on Friday taking him for his word. Never got a check! Been 4 weeks now.

He wanted it sent to the Predator Junction mailing address. I don't have the address anymore. I also sent 3 calls to the same address for them to give away to contest winners.

I hope they get given away to the members of his board. Not just to his buddies. I thought I was helping out a new predator hunting board.

From now on I will stick to the tried and true boards.

Steve
 
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do you think doc holiday is an acomplice or one of crit-r-done's aliases ???
Bob

i will gladly pay you Tuesday for a ahmburger today,,who said this????
 
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Quote--He said it was going out on a Thursday. I mailed the call on Friday taking him for his word. Never got a check! Been 4 weeks now--end quote.

OK guys, I've been wrong before (see my previous posts)--But (I believe) the above quote could possibly, maybe, be a little bit of the problem.

I recommend a new topic/question--how long were the call makers here doing business this way before this type of thing happened?????????I'd be REALLY INTERESTED in that one.



I did it a few times before with no problem. But that was with guys here on this board. I guess I am a trusting guy.

I was also starting my new job the following Monday. I really wanted to get all my buisness finished up before that.

Most of the guys have a Pay-Pal account so I have the money before I have the reed installed in the call that they requested.

Steve
 
Hey Smoker13,

Most of us send the calls to the guys on this forum without the money being here yet. It's a matter of trust between hunters, and has absolutely no bearing on this situation.

The fact that we conduct our businesses a certain way does not negate the fact that a preson refused to live up to his end of the bargin, nor does it give him any right to do so.

This is how I conduct my business if you are REALLY INTERESTED in knowing, and I have been doing it this way for the last 3 years. I actually tell people not to send the money until I get the calls made because I don't want to take their money if the calls are not done, and sometimes it takes me longer than I expect.

Now, if YOU ever decide to order or buy a call from me, I will wait until the funds are in hand and the check has cleared before the product is sent to you. Like I said, it's a matter of trust.

Al
THO Game Calls

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But....did ya happen to notice in my post (the one that "seemed to trouble" you--now, I'm not 100% SURE that it troubled you, so I say SEEMED--is this OK?), that when I started trying to explain my understanding of "defamation of character"------I started with "I BELIEVE"??????? I was not preaching the law, I was explaining MY UNDERSTANDING of defamation of character. I still don't completely understand the problem you have (oops--the problem you MIGHT have, as I'm not "positive" you do have a problem--and--I'm just trying to avoid all those slam--dunk lawsuits that are coming my way.)




Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Al
 
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Wow, between the threats the name-calling, and the potty-mouth, I don't know where to start......



This is the PM I sent you.


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What offended me, and others I am sure is when you wrote


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but hey--as long as I BELIEVE IT TO BE TRUE,I can say it--game over.


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That is completely wrong, completely false and will get you sued.

It also vilolates the TOS of this site, and probably your ISP.

You are ALWAYS responsable for what you write, and if you don't belive me, keep writing what you belive on the internet and your paycheck at the end of the week will end up going to someone else one day. Because they will sue you, and you will lose.

On the other hand, your smart alek reply to my post shows you are a buffoon, and not a very smart guy, so this is probably way over your head. I'm just trying to save you some heartburn and some money.

As for my priorities....I worked hard enough and was smart enough to be able to retire at age 50. I am now 51 and make calls full time. My priorities right now are hunting and making calls. I earned that right. So yeah, I can spend a little time on the boards. It's something you might aspire to and might actually achieve one day if you don't end up getting sued for saying what you believe to be true when in fact it isn't. In that case, you might end up working until you are an old old man, with someone else enjoying the rewards of your efforts.

Just some words of wisdon for you.

Al
THO Game Calls



Now, if you don't know where to start, I could offer a suggestion /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Have a nice day

Al
THO Game Calls
 
Guys....This thread was put here to inform everyone on what had been taking place and to keep it from getting someone else drug into this! I would like to keep it that way! It was put here to let everyone know what was going on and taking place. It was put here for info, and to share info!

Lets keep it that way! I wont let it turn!


Brent
 
Following is a quote made by Hog Trapper on PJ board...

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Ladies and Gentlemen, I know some of you are members over at PM, And I know you have read all the flaming and open debates and personal reputation bashing.
Let it be known that those types of actions will not be tolerated here at Predator Junction, and the thread will be deleted by an administrator.
This is not the image Predator Junction wants to show the public or how we want potential new members to view our board. Thank you for your understanding, and for helping us remain a friendly and family oriented forum.
HT



I see....but it's ok for the board owner/administrator (Lince/Jay Travis) to stiff call makers out of $$ owed to them??? That IS the image and reputation Jay has made for himself over the past few years.... and not just with call makers....

I don't have a dog in this fight ( I do have friends affected though), but over the past few years I have seen and heard a great deal concerning Jay Travis and his "business practice" that it makes me want to vomit.

Hog Trapper, I registered on the PJ sight before knowing who's board it was. You'll note I don't participate on the board..... do me a favor and delete my registration as I don't associate with thieves. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
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This is not the image Predator Junction wants to show the public or how we want potential new members to view our board. Thank you for your understanding, and for helping us remain a friendly and family oriented forum.
HT





Heck I agree with that for the most part and that might be how HT see's it, but what it realy translates to is damage control in a panic type situation. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

And Mr. travis probably see's it as;

"Lets keep the suckers ignorant, so I can get some more calls and money"


Normaly I wouldn't have entertained this reply(mine), but now it appears that your trying to redirect the issues to PM. When you should be either taking responsabilty for backing a supposed con(With a record) or MAN'ing up and stepping away. Don't try to justify what your doing by pointing at PM. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Note to PM: You have had your issues in the past but, Jim and crew you have done one heck of a job mediating a bunch bull headed fellas such as the likes of us, and being forward as much as can be expected. This post is just one example, and I appreciate it. Thanks again.
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Todd
 
Hogtrapper, next time you visit Jay,
if you see this call:
orgallery_image040.jpg



Please take it from him, and send it back to me.
I would GREATLY appreciate it. I have a lot of work in that call, and even with a discounted price, and numerouus emails and pm's and posts in the moderators forum, I am not able to get Jay or Jimmy Davis pay for it.

I will pay you back for the shipping.

thank you.

and also, please remove any banners to my site that may be present at PJ. thanks, friend.
 


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