Weatherby cartridges.

OKRattler said:
Well I'm seriously considering what you told me. I'm making ant hills out of mountains for a lack of better words. I tend to do that and that's just me being me. I sit and think about things, do hours upon hours of research and then still ask questions. I'm a buy once, cry once type of guy. To a degree it's at my own detriment but that's just how I am in every aspect of my life.

I'm a thinker that's for sure.
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Hey man, I’m there. I feel your pain. There’s a 100% chance, that I’m going to overthink everything I do. I just can’t seem to help it. If it wasn’t blessed enough to have the friends and family that I do, that have probably done whatever I’m plotting to do with guns/predators, I’d really be a disaster. Lol
 
cropdamage said:
OKRattler,
I may have missed it. What is your main gun/ chambering for when the money is on the line ?
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.223 or 22-250. I just got a 7.62x39 and a .450 Bushmaster not that long ago but they're not necessarily long range cartridges by any means. They're my guns for when shots are fairly close and I'm set up where I know shots won't be far.
 
Austin Laughlin said:
Hey man, I’m there. I feel your pain. There’s a 100% chance, that I’m going to overthink everything I do. I just can’t seem to help it. If it wasn’t blessed enough to have the friends and family that I do, that have probably done whatever I’m plotting to do with guns/predators, I’d really be a disaster. Lol
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I'm right there with you. My bank account can't handle the amount of ideas I come up with so I have to narrow it down quite a bit.
 
OKRattler said:
.223 or 22-250. I just got a 7.62x39 and a .450 Bushmaster not that long ago but they're not necessarily long range cartridges by any means. They're my guns for when shots are fairly close and I'm set up where I know shots won't be far.
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Made a few trips to Texas years ago, night hunting preds and pigs. 2 of the trips involved a 223AI twisted 8.
I set it up with Barnes 62gr TSX for saving fur and killing pigs at the same time. Worked really well on fur,especially bobcats. Pigs it would shoot through a shoulder and into the opposite one or into the neck on angled shots and sometimes exit. I recovered a bullet on a full frontal hit on a coyote and the bullet was just inside the hide at the base of the tail ! I've broke down whitetail deer a couple times here in Michigan , never had to look for one when shot with the TSX.
That said , I always thought a fast twist 22-250 or now a 22 creed loaded with the 55-62 gr TSX/TTSX would be a stone cold killer.
I'd have no worries about shooting a coyote in the forward facing eyes via the rearward eye ,with anything I mentioned at 300.


There are some custom copper bullets that may even be better these day.
 
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cropdamage said:
Made a few trips to Texas years ago, night hunting preds and pigs. 2 of the trips involved a 223AI twisted 8.
I set it up with Barnes 62gr TSX for saving fur and killing pigs at the same time. Worked really well on fur,especially bobcats. Pigs it would shoot through a shoulder and into the opposite one or into the neck on angled shots and sometimes exit. I recovered a bullet on a full frontal hit on a coyote and the bullet was just inside the hide at the base of the tail ! I've broke down whitetail deer a couple times here in Michigan , never had to look for one when shot with the TSX.
That said , I always thought a fast twist 22-250 or now a 22 creed loaded with the 55-62 gr TSX/TTSX would be a stone cold killer.
I'd have no worries about shooting a coyote in the forward facing eyes via the rearward eye ,with anything I mentioned at 300.


There are some custom copper bullets that may even be better these day.
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Oh for sure. I'd say 95% of the coyotes I've killed was with a .223, having said that I've always been real selective about my shot placement most of the time. Unless the coyote was missed and took off running and then I'd shoot it wherever and just plan on having to shoot it again once it started spinning.

And I'd say most shots are inside of 200 yards. Seems like every time I enter a contest I have that one sitting on a hillside at 400 yards that has spotted my huntin buddy or I and won't budge. Something inevitably happens. It's hard to pass those up and I can't bring myself to launch one out there with the setup I have and possibly educate that coyote further. I'd like to be able to reach out there and get him in those circumstances if the need should arise. For pelt saving and fun hunting the .223 will always be my go to. Just seems like during a contest things go unexpectedly and I always have the wrong weapon at the wrong time. I need one dedicated long range gun that'll put them down.
 
Austin Laughlin said:
I’d be in bad bad trouble if I went to financing with a bank note, for all my wild gun ideas… and probably divorced.
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I'm pretty convinced that predator huntin is one of the most expensive hobbies a person can have. I was big into paintball when I was a teenager and I thought it was expensive. It don't hold a candle to chasin predators. The sky is the limit in this sport.
 
Well, I can tell you close counts with the 243.lol I have pictures of them over the decades that I’ve shot with that 70 grain ballistic tip that were almost cut in half when you hit bone or a little too far back. It looks like they stepped on a grenade. If you’re in a contest i’ll put money on it one won’t walk away unless you give it a haircut. Kind of funny though I’ve shot a lot of them with the same bullet that pokes a hole in and out with no damage whatsoever but the outcome is the same they all are DRT…accept for 2 spinners I hit a little far back. They didn’t go anywhere needless to say. They both hit the ground after about three or four spins and died. The only one I had to track down and finish off was a coyote I shot on trot coming right at me facing me that I ended up blowing its jaw off. My fault as I was aiming between the eyes and it was about a 100 yards trotting directly towards me. I had it zeroed at 250 so it hit low and blew its lower jaw completely off. It was flopping on the ground so I dropped two more coyotes in the process. After a few seconds, it got up and ran. I tracked it down underneath a bush a few hundred yards away and finished it off. looked like a horror movie with just its top jaw and tongue hanging out. It actually ran out of the bush after me and tried to bite me with no lower jaw. That was around 20 years ago and the last head shot I ever took on a coyote. All I can tell you is if you’re looking for a contest caliber to anchor coyotes, with the less than ideal shot to 243 to me is about the ultimate “over kill” caliber without going odd ball or exotic along with not a lot of recoil. My heavy barrel 243 26” Remington has very little recoil. Same With my heavy AR10s.
 
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OKRattler said:
I'm pretty convinced that predator huntin is one of the most expensive hobbies a person can have. I was big into paintball when I was a teenager and I thought it was expensive. It don't hold a candle to chasin predators. The sky is the limit in this sport.
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A drug addiction is probably cheaper
 
Dultimatpredator said:
Well, I can tell you close counts with the 243.lol I have pictures of them over the decades that I’ve shot with that 70 grain ballistic tip that were almost cut in half when you hit bone or a little too far back. It looks like they stepped on a grenade. If you’re in a contest i’ll put money on it one won’t walk away unless you give it a haircut. Kind of funny though I’ve shot a lot of them with the same bullet that pokes a hole in and out with no damage whatsoever but the outcome is the same they all are DRT…accept for 2 spinners I hit a little far back. They didn’t go anywhere needless to say. They both hit the ground after about three or four spins and died. The only one I had to track down and finish off was a coyote I shot on trot coming right at me facing me that I ended up blowing its jaw off. My fault as I was aiming between the eyes and it was about a 100 yards trotting directly towards me. I had it zeroed at 250 so it hit low and blew its lower jaw completely off. It was flopping on the ground so I dropped two more coyotes in the process. After a few seconds, it got up and ran. I tracked it down underneath a bush a few hundred yards away and finished it off. looked like a horror movie with just its top jaw and tongue hanging out. It actually ran out of the bush after me and tried to bite me with no lower jaw. That was around 20 years ago and the last head shot I ever took on a coyote. All I can tell you is if you’re looking for a contest caliber to anchor coyotes, with the less than ideal shot to 243 to me is about the ultimate “over kill” caliber without going odd ball or exotic along with not a lot of recoil. My heavy barrel 243 26” Remington has very little recoil. Same With my heavy AR10s.
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I think you've about got me talked into a .243 honestly. One big plus is recoil, or lack there of. I'm not recoil sensitive but it's nice to not get knocked around too. Especially if you have a double come in and have to get on the second one after things get chaotic.
 
Austin Laughlin said:
A drug addiction is probably cheaper
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Yeah that ain't no lie. But I think we got the better end of the deal. After a drug addict is out of drugs they're just out. We just have to walk over a few more hills and there'll be another coyote running to us. We have more fun, more often. Even if there ain't I guess maybe we'll live a little longer, I hope.
 
OKRattler said:
Yeah that ain't no lie. But I think we got the better end of the deal. After a drug addict is out of drugs they're just out. We just have to walk over a few more hills and there'll be another coyote running to us. We have more fun, more often. Even if there ain't I guess maybe we'll live a little longer, I hope
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Lol amen brother
 
The rifle in my avatar, which is probably really hard to see is my Remington 700 VLS 26” heavy barrel chambered in 243. It had a gorgeous stock on it but the best I could do was half inch groups after betting it. I sold it off decades ago and bought an HS precision stock for it and threw on a Timney trigger. I also sent it to Tarjak a few years later And had everything dipped in Max one camouflage, including the Leupold mark 1V 4 1/2 x 14. A rotating Haris bipod on it as well. It’s heavy enough that I can see the impacts at longer shots. I also have a little light weight 1967 Remington 600 chambered in 243. I had a Jard trigger installe. I brakes a 1 1/4 pounds. I also bedded it and free floated the barrel. It’ll cloverleaf with the same 90 grain load that shoots all in the same hole with my upgraded vls. Pretty nice just a load and go. That little gun weighs about 5 1/2 pounds so it makes a great walking and calling rifle. I also have two AR10s in 243 that both shoot under half MOA but imo feel to awkward for hunting.
 
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