Originally Posted By: GLShooterOriginally Posted By: 204 AROriginally Posted By: GLShooter
A 50 at 3300 is easily obtained in a 223. Why bother?
Greg
In an 18" barrel?
Did you look at my post? Piece of cake.
http://www.predatormastersforums.com/for...940#Post3045940
Greg
I saw 3227 fps with 50 zmax. My 22N is 3420 with 50 zmax with good brass life. Is 200 fps worthwhile? We all can agree the 18" barrel roll-out is a bit mysterious. However there is a place for shorties also, and an increase is an increase. This one runs neck and neck with my 24" 223ai, so I save 6" of barrel for the same performance. I have seen that Ritch runs a 16" 6x6.8 IIRC, some would say why not run a 24" 6x45. Because you get the performance in a handy package when running suppressed.
I will be interested to see the 24" numbers. Speaking with Mike Milli the other day on another subject and I asked him about it. He seemed to believe it will outrun his 22DTI. He actually seemed pretty excited about it and is chambering for it. Mentioned it coming close to a 22-250. And that 24 and 25 caliber rounds were next from Nosler.
If the rebated rim is holding it back, and I can see that with all the bolt thrust working against a smaller footprint so to speak, what would be wrong with using a 6.8 bolt and Hagar brass? Hdy brass is known to be soft also, but I see everyone complaining about all the 6.8 brass out there being crap also, sooo?
Heck I don't remember ever loading a piece of 223 brass 10 times, or 204. Maybe I have with some LC at some point who knows. Grendel brass heck ya that stuff is crazy how long Lapua brass lasts. And on that note who's to say if the 22N takes off Lapua won't make brass in the future?
I think all the diversity and variety of these rounds is a good thing. These cheap barrels are a total crap shoot, anyone who's built AR's knows if you buy a $100 barrel it's a roll of the dice and the odds aren't with you. I guess I went into it with optimism and getting into a new caliber cheaply to check it out while waiting on better barrels to become available. I'm just glad I got mine to acceptable levels fairly quickly and painlessly. If the wind ever dies we will see what it's really capable of at longer ranges.