What is Moly coating?

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You're going to get about 100 replies on this one, and most will tell you to stay away from moly.

I would honestly suggest that you do a Google search for moly bullets, or other similar phrases/terms and spend some time reading. Some folks tout moly as the Holy Grail...others wouldn't shoot them it they were free.

It's kinda like asking which is better...Vanilla or Chocolate. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

I know lots of shooters (GOOD shooters) who would hit you up the side of the head for even suggesting it to them. But OTOH, Mike Milli (DTech) shoots them regularly (if memory serves me right) and I respect his opinions. DOG-B-GONE shoots moly also, if I recall correctly, and has had good experiences with it. I "think" moly really comes into play in high-volume situations and is supposed to greatly increase round count between cleanings.
 
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My understanding is that it cuts down on friction and allows more rounds between cleanings. I put a lot of confidence in Sierra, and don't believe they would even offer it if it was bad for your rifle. I know that on my Browning Abolt 243 with BOSS, I used to have to clean my bore after about 20 rounds to maintain the tightest groups. I have shot as many as 50 with no loss of accuracy with the moly coated Blitz King 70 grain.
 
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I havent used the Moly either, I have read that it can trap moisture in Barrels, between the moly and rifling ? I also heard that it takes alot to remove it, to start shooting non-moly again? Verdict is still out, Im getting the Tikka out of prison on Tues.. still deciding on what to shoot in it.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
I have tried it in several rifles. I bought the tumble lube kit from Cabela's.

Bottom line is:

If it gave me better accuracy I would still be using it.

If it gave me better velocity I would still be using it.

If it was easy to use and not messy I would still be using it.

If it made the gun easier to clean I would still be using it.

I'm not still using it.
 
My SIL was using it in his 223 after a while accuracy started falling off. After we checked the rifle out he found rust in his chamber and in the leade of the rifleings. After I talked to him some I found out he did not prep the barrel for useing the moly and seldom cleaned the rifle ( after all it is a 223) well long story short we got the rust and the build up of old moly out of the chamber and barrel and the rifle is back shooting as accurately as it did before with non moly bullets. These kids never stop surpising me with ignorance. I am old fashiond and have never even considered moly. But I have read enough to know that you don't just start useing them you have to get the inside of the rilfe squeeky clean first like down to bare metal and then the moly residue has to be cleaned out every dam time or it will bring rust and corrosion.
 
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I have decided i'm not going to use them after reading all of the replys they are more trubble than there worth.
 
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Anybody ever tumble bullets to remove the moly?



Yep. When I decided to quit using moly bullets, I had about 500 in .223 and nearly 1k in 6mm. I tossed them in the Dillon in new, untreated media. After about an hour, they were pretty much moly-free, although they were still a bit dull-colored, not at all shiny like naked bullets.

I still have some of the 6mm's left, and they shoot fine.

Warning.....tumbling moly bullets will trash your media. That's why I used new, untreated corn cob, so it wouldn't ruin my "seasoned" stuff. I'm glad I did that, because the new stuff came out black and very, very dusty.

Mike
 
None of my guns will ever see moly again. Messy waist of time. I am shooting the Winchester Supreme Silver Ballistic Tips Nosler/Lubalox with good results.
 
Seems like there is a argument for alternating moly and non moly say 1 moly in 2-3 regular. They are the same cost or within a buck or so and the Black Hills brand I shoot has the exact same ballistics. I clean after every day out so rust is not really a concern for me. Seems like they would keep the barrel slightly lubed but the regulars would blow out some excess. Thoughts? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
I'm with the others on this, my guns will never see moly again. besides messy, things get rather inconsistant after a good barrel cleaning. don't want or need that. matter of fact, was doing some cleaning out of the bullet shelves and found a bunch of boxes of berger and hornady 17 and 22 bullets. was wondering about cleaning it off, or what to do with them, so after hearing it works guess I know what to do with them. I don't hear much of anyone using it anymore.
Barry
 
I have found that other than removing a few extra bucks from your wallet they aren't of much use... I have tried several weights in 3 different calibers (picked some up at a gunshow) and haven't found any difference except for the mess... Glad they are gone,if you haven't had the pleasure, its alot like anti-sieze compound, one drop and its all over everything

Dave
 
A late comment,... why are some of the rifle manufacturers selling us rifles with molybdenum coating if if moly is bad?

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NoBull60
 
I have no idea what you're talking about, because if you've ever handled moly coated bullets, it'll rub off on your hands and creates a big mess, so I guarantee there isn't any manufacture selling rifles coated with the same stuff. If you're talking about the Remington XCR, it's an electroless type plating, similar to nickel, but far tougher.
 
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