Which Leupold VX-3 do I want??

"I took my two USO's out last night set on 10 power."

True the 60 would be brighter at 10X. However if both were set at 6X there would be no difference in brightness.

Jack
 
First thing you need to ask yourself is are you going to or will you take the time to mess with the AO?

At the distances you state and game you hunt I would ask myself if I really needed the 14 power? those are pretty big targets even at 500yds

I personally despise ballistic reticles I cant see them.

Sounds like money isnt much of an object with in reason so why not order exactly what you want directly from leupold then have them put a nice german #4 reticle in it and a target knob on your elevation adjustment then when you get your load all dialed in call them with your ballistics and have them send you a turret for your scope!
 
I have a couple 4.5x14 40mm BC reticle. my Dad has a 4.5x14 40mm BC reticle WITH the LR (30 mm tube). which I thought was more clear at 14 power than mine. of course most scopes I've looked through are poor when cranked all the way up. 1st, I love the BC reticle, 2nd If I was going to buy a gun that is used only for 150+ yds. I would check out 6-18 power scopes. Now my scope with a 300 win mag. 180 grain Barnes bullet. the scope has to be set at 14 power for the BC reticle to match the bullet drop. other calibers require the same scope to be set at 10 power to match the bullet drop. This info can be found before you make a purchase.

Lee
 
I dont have any experience with ballistic reticles and dont really understand why you have to have the scop set at a certain power for said distance?????

Being said this is one more thing I dont want to think about when looking at a 30 incher get a distance, turn a knob, point and shoot

Plus depending on the terrain hunted in if its real brushy I could see losing the fine lines rather easy
 
Well, This is argument could go on forever. Here is my rant "not directed at you" I am tired of guys who don't know how far away the animal is, yet they still shoot. and worse than that they have never shot that far ever before. (even if its only 200 yds.) Shooting legs off is not an option. You, as a hunter must spend alot of time reading about your bullet drop out of your specific caliber. Then take that knowledge and shoot and shoot and shoot at all yardage. Now get out your laser rangefinder, range a tree or large rock near the deer and make those 300 yd. heart shots. Period, no excuses.
 
I understand your point but how does a ballistic reticle change anything you still need to know the yardage you are shooting to know which hash mark to use?

I know some of the old school scopes had a little deal on the side that you used to judge distance based on the chest of the target.

Again I would rather turn a knob and point and shoot if I am going to be out the money.
 
Yes, I am a big on the use of rangefinders. I guess type of scope you prefer is like your favorite icecream. Can't really fault a guy for his taste buds. I like the BC reticle because it (for me) removes holding the crosshairs high at 300, 400 and 500 yds. There already figured out for me. Now obviously before the creation of the BC reticle I was one of those guys trying to remember the full chest height of a bull elk is 32" and a #150 lb. deer is around 16" and a coyote is 8-10" Also, now remember my gun shoots 7" low at 300 yds and 14" low at 400 yds. and 28" low at 500. So for me with the BC reticle just put the scope on 14 power and shoot. Sounds easy, I know the old Vari-x 3 and the new VX-3 has range finding ability. by turning the power up on the scope until your quarry fits "broadside chest height" between the crosshairs and the bold portion of the vertical crosshair. once completed, look at the scope and the yardage is written on the power adjust ring. Of course it is not as good as a laser rangefinder simply because all deer are not the same body weight nor is any other animal. During real hunting situations I laser rangefind many different objects well before any deer pops out of the woodwork, and I remember those distances. Because during any hunt you only have a few seconds to take the shot. So I guess thats my 2 cents,,, good luck hunting.


Lee
 
There's something to be said about that--that's for sur, but on coyote size tgts. where the vital zone is only about 6", then that equates to a "conservative" MPBR of usually 200-275 yds. with the flattest shooting cartridges. I always calculate the MPBR for my guns at 3/4ths broadside vital zone size, to give a little room for shooting errors.

I use many ballistic and rangefinding reticles for trajectory compensation and rangefinding. It's all based on the mil-dot mil-ranging formula even when using the Leupold RES system (adjusting power and consequently reticle subtension for rangefinding). I only use turrets for prairie dog shooting.
 
Originally Posted By: bigwheeler50x50x3.1412=7,853
40x40x3.1412=5,026

There is the math, quite a bit of surface area difference. 36% if I am not
mistaken. That is a lot of light. I night hunt with a 60mm with no illumination.
you would only see black in a 40.

Isn't it pi times the radius squared?
20x20x3.14=1256
25x25x3.14=1963
1963-1256=707 square mm
707/1256=.562898 ----> 56.2898%

Therefore it is 56.3% more surface area am i messed up??????
And i use a 50mm and notice a big difference in low light. Furthermore the 50mm is only 3.6oz more than the 40mm counterpart of my particular scope. So i just don't eat a quarter pounder the day i decide to hunt lol.
 
Originally Posted By: Lee and PennyYes, I am a big on the use of rangefinders. I guess type of scope you prefer is like your favorite icecream. Can't really fault a guy for his taste buds. I like the BC reticle because it (for me) removes holding the crosshairs high at 300, 400 and 500 yds. There already figured out for me. Now obviously before the creation of the BC reticle I was one of those guys trying to remember the full chest height of a bull elk is 32" and a #150 lb. deer is around 16" and a coyote is 8-10" Also, now remember my gun shoots 7" low at 300 yds and 14" low at 400 yds. and 28" low at 500. So for me with the BC reticle just put the scope on 14 power and shoot. Sounds easy, I know the old Vari-x 3 and the new VX-3 has range finding ability. by turning the power up on the scope until your quarry fits "broadside chest height" between the crosshairs and the bold portion of the vertical crosshair. once completed, look at the scope and the yardage is written on the power adjust ring. Of course it is not as good as a laser rangefinder simply because all deer are not the same body weight nor is any other animal. During real hunting situations I laser rangefind many different objects well before any deer pops out of the woodwork, and I remember those distances. Because during any hunt you only have a few seconds to take the shot. So I guess thats my 2 cents,,, good luck hunting.


Lee







Wow, i had never understood what those yardage marks were on the vx3. obviously i've never owned one lol- i'm just a poor college student.
 
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