While we are talking about Pac-Nor.....

Ken,,,,,,,,, I'm talking about the work P-N does when re barreling. They simply square up the face of your action and lap the locking lugs before setting head space as a standard procedure.

Here's a link that clearly states what I just said, although I have heard others question whether they actually lap your lugs.
http://www.pac-nor.com/pricelist/
Like I said, "all three of my 700's clearly show that they were lapped, but my CZ still looks like it's not making full contact".
Nowhere on their site do they say that they bush, sleeve, and square the bolt. It's a simple contour, bead blast, chamber and head-space job, just like the average smith does. I would imagine that they have their hands full with the barrel making and don't really want to get into fully customizing. I do however know that a couple of them are fully capable of it.

Tim,,, the link above says "14 to 16 weeks for fitted and chambered barrels" but I've had them in as little as five weeks and as many as eighteen.
A quick call to Penny will tell ya what the current lead time is.

Charlie
 
I've had a couple of barrels done by Pac-Nor and am very pleased. They fitted a 6x45 barrel to my Rem 600 and when I was woking on the 25-204 they built my first barrel for a Savage by chamberring a 25cal barrel with a 204 Ruger Reamer and cut the neck and throat in a seperate operation. This was a few years ago, they were great to work with.

AWS
 
RePete,

I had two Rem 700's, and Ruger M77MKII, and I don't count the Savages because I mounted them to the actions. I paid to have the action trued and lapped. If they aren't going to do these things, they shouldn't charge for them IMO.

I honestly don't know what all they did to the one Rem or the Ruger. Both shot fine and I didn't check their work.
The last was a Rem 700 and I had the action and bolt coated before I sent it to them for work. When I got it back the coating was still on the bolt lugs, so they could not have lapped it without removing some of the coating on the lugs. I know what lapped lugs look like. It shot fine, and I didn't want to raise a stink or send it back at the time. I was just disappointed that they didn't do the work they charged for. Now I wonder how many they pushed through without lapping? Maybe mine was the only one.

I have a local gunsmith that gets most all my rebarrel jobs now. He is reasonably priced and I usually get my rifle rebarreled in less than a week once I deliver all the parts to him. Once he did it while I waited. I already had taken the old barrel off the action at my house and when I got to his shop he knocked it out while I watched and asked questions. He is retired as only does gunwork as a hobbie. Didn't charge me more for asking questions either.
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Originally Posted By: CoyotejunkiRePete,
I paid to have the action trued and lapped. If they aren't going to do these things, they shouldn't charge for them IMO.





Couldn't agree with ya more bud.
I was just wondering if maybe the fact that a rifle was CRF might have anything to do with it.

Bottom line for me is that I don't have a smith in the area that I trust and since P-N's been good to me, I show em some loyalty. Nothing more, nothing less.
The four they did for me all shoot .5moa or less so I'm happy.

Life's Good
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Charlie

BTW I had a long talk with Allen yesterday.
He won't get his hands on that Classic for at least a month, and it's killing him.
He's living in an old farm house with one tv channel and an old eight track for entertainment, and working 16hrs a day.
I told him the wait was good for him. Builds character. lol
That Classic in 17Rem I posted above is the reason he wanted yours.
He's lusted after that rig for a long while. hehe
 
Originally Posted By: RePeteKen,,,,,,,,, I'm talking about the work P-N does when re barreling. They simply square up the face of your action and lap the locking lugs before setting head space as a standard procedure. Charlie

Okay. See I did not know this. Like I said, I've never had them do the work.

To be honest, I like PN tubes, but I'd prefer to let someone else do the action work. Not saying they do a bad job or anything...........
 
Thanks for all of the responses. When I get the funds in order I think Ill give them a try on a 243AI. You all have been very helpful.
 
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Anytime somebody talks about lapping lugs it means they did not true it. It is a cheaper alternative and usually works but not the real deal.

Jack
 
Originally Posted By: Jack RobertsAnytime somebody talks about lapping lugs it means they did not true it. It is a cheaper alternative and usually works but not the real deal.

Jack

Thanks for the sage input Jack.
Iguess they simply went to all the trouble to remove the blueing from the face of my reciever instead of squaring up the face on a lath and then lapped the lugs hoping they could fool me into thinking it was the "real deal".

Ya know,,, every time I post on this site I know I'm gonna end up regretting it.
You'd think I'd eventually learn.

I'm out.
 
Truing the lugs both in the receiver and on the bolt is a lot more work than just lapping them. That's why lapping is cutting corners.
Lapping usually works but no way is it truing an action.

Jack
 


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