Who is the better cowboy John Wayne or Clint Eastwood?

This is a spinoff from another thread. Who is the best on screen cowboy? In my book John Wayne and Clint Eastwood are deffinately in the running, but this doesn't have to be limited to those two. So who is the best of the old west?
 
I think the key word here is "cowboy".

I guess I've seen JW actually act as a cowboy more than CE, i.e. the movie "Cowboys". So I would have to say JW.

Clint is usually just a gunslinger rather than a cowboy.

I like Clint as an all around western actor better than John W.
 
John Wayne; The Searchers

Clint Eastwood; The Good The Bad & The Ugly

Jeff Bridges; Wild Bill

Burt Lancaster; Valdez Is Coming (He tags some bad guys, far off with a Sharps Rifle) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Steve McQueen; Tom Horn (Excellent!)
 
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Sadly, John Wayne never got full credit for his acting ability because of his conservative views in a liberal hollywood. I came across a very interesting websight that talks about his acting history. It even gives details about how he probably contracted the cancer that finally took his life. Not sure if I can post it or not since I'm a newbie and don't know all the rules. Its not a websight thats trying to sell anything. Just info on the duke! Oh I'd have to vote Wayne all the way over Eastwood. Heck I'd have to even vote James Stewart a close second! http://members.aol.com/fortscott/movies.htm
 
The Duke. There are also other good actors in westerns. Jimmy Stewart, Randolph Scott, Glen Ford and others to name but a few. IMHO, the Duke was/is the best though. MI VHNTR


Added in edit. I almost forgot Ben Johnson, who was also a great cowboy.
 
JW for the all around goodguy....The Clint for the go-to man if someone needs a good ol' fashioned butt whoopin' or an thoracic/abdominal perforation. I have the screen poster of "The Outlaw Josie Wales" on my wall. Loved him in Pale Rider too. The only role he ever played as a cowboy that I know of was in "Hang 'em High" and of course as Roddy Yates(or was it Rowdie?) in the TV series "Rawhide" I swear I'll cry the day he leaves us.
 
The Duke! No if's, and's or but's! There have been many a great western, and cowboy, but only one John Wayne...

"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them." (John Wayne as J.B.Books in the Shootist).

John Wayne was much more than just an actor playing a cowboy, he was a true American icon and hero...I miss him greatly!
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What's that one feller's name? the guy that usually played a bad guy. He was the "bad" (I think) in the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

Was it Lee Van Cleeve? I always enjoyed watching him too. I think he's dead now. Passed away a few years ago.
 
Yes, Lee Van Cleef played Sentenza, aka, "The Bad" in The Good, Bad and Ugly. He also played opposite Clint in "For a Few Dollars More"
 
Robert Duvall....

Lucky Ned Pepper - True Grit
Augustus McRae - Lonesome Dove
Bluebonnett "Boss" Spearman - Open Range
Al Sieber - Geronimo
Frank Harlan - Joe Kidd
Vernon Adams - Lawman

These are just a few of his western performances. I personally like Lonesome Dove as my favorite western.
 
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I'm not trying to flame you or anything but how can you call a draft-dodger a Hero ?



None taken....

At the time of Pearl Harbor, Wayne was 34 years old. His marriage was on the rocks but he still had four kids to support. His career was taking off, in large part on the strength of his work in the classic western Stagecoach (1939). But he wasn't rich. Should he chuck it all and enlist? Many of Hollywood's big names, such as Henry Fonda, Jimmy Stewart, and Clark Gable, did just that. (Fonda, was 37 at the time and had a wife and three kids.) But these were established stars. Wayne knew that if he took a few years off for military service, there was a good chance that by the time he got back he'd be over the hill.

Besides, he specialized in the kind of movies a nation at war wanted to see, in which a rugged American hero overcame great odds. Recognizing that Hollywood was an important part of the war effort, Washington had told California draft boards to go easy on actors. Perhaps rationalizing that he could do more good at home, Wayne obtained 3-A status, "deferred for [family] dependency reasons." He told friends he'd enlist after he made just one or two more movies.

The real question is why he never did so. Wayne cranked out thirteen movies during the war, many with war-related themes. Most of the films were enormously successful and within a short time the Duke was one of America's most popular stars. His bankability now firmly established, he could have joined the military, secure in the knowledge that Hollywood would welcome him back later. He even made a half-hearted effort to sign up, sending in the paperwork to enlist in the naval photography unit commanded by a good friend, director John Ford.

But he didn't follow through. Nobody really knows why; Wayne didn't like to talk about it. A guy who prided himself on doing his own stunts, he doesn't seem to have lacked physical courage. One suspects he just found it was a lot more fun being a Hollywood hero than the real kind. Many movie star-soldiers had enlisted in the first flush of patriotism after Pearl Harbor. As the war ground on, slogging it out in the trenches seemed a lot less exciting. The movies, on the other hand, had put Wayne well on the way to becoming a legend. In late 1943 and early 1944 he entertained the troops in the Pacific theater as part of a USO tour. An intelligence bigshot asked him to give his impression of Douglas MacArthur. He was fawned over by the press when he got back. Meanwhile, he was having a torrid affair with a beautiful Mexican woman. How could military service compare with that?

In 1944, Wayne received a 2-A classification, "deferred in support of [the] national . . . interest." A month later the Selective Service decided to revoke many previous deferments and reclassified him 1-A. But Wayne's studio appealed and got his 2-A status reinstated until after the war ended.

People who knew Wayne say he felt bad about not having served. (During the war he'd gotten into a few fights with servicemen who wondered why he wasn't in uniform.) Some think his guilty conscience was one reason he became such a superpatriot later. The fact remains that the man who came to symbolize American patriotism and pride had a chance to do more than just act the part, and he let it pass.
 


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