Who Moved My Cheese?

Okanagan~

This was an after thought.....

I too have interaction with a person who has horrendeous people skills (not my superior, and not a subordinate) and the outcome is often contradictory to what he set out to accomplish. I believe that he doesn't realize that he has poor social skills (maybe like your manager?).

Do you think it's possible to tactfully and effectively make a person aware of their own inability to interact with others? And, is it possible that they can improve their skills with just the knowledge. If yes, how?

Now that would be helpful...a parable to make a person realize they don't relate well to others! Anybody know of one?

Incidentally, I've heard no comments on The Precious Present. Now that IS a good book!
 
Do you think it's possible to tactfully and effectively make a person aware of their own inability to interact with others?
Ever see the movie Full Metal Jacket? They ended up solving their Gomer Pyle problem. Not very tactful, though.

A parable to make a person realize they don't relate well to others! Anybody know of one?
i'm thinking there must be one in a collection of Aesop's work!

Good book!
Secret to a good meeting: Bring in a big bucket of Guvmunt Cheez and read a couple pages from The Precious Present.
You'll have them in the palm of your hand, and they can't wait for more!

Can we all agree that Who Moved My Cheese? is the "bible" of cheese transporting?



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Change is not necessarily inevitable, however, if you continue to do what you've been doing you will continue to get what you've been getting.
In other words, change is not a mandate, it's a choice.
 
Ohhhhh BOLOGNA!


boy that word looks funny typed
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EDIT: Because I didn't spell it right the first time. Doh!

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Change (of varying degree) is necessary to improve a process. If the process is adequate, change is unnecessary. These are basic quality management assessment metrics. Sometimes a change is implemented not for problem solving but for diversion (shake up the troops). To evaluate a situation for change necessity, a pareto or fishbone diagram will usually suffice.
This is what I do for a living. I don't do baloney, I do process mapping. I'm not trying to change your mind, only point out the tools the big boys play with. These are not opinions, they are the teachings of Deming, Juran, Ishikawa, Covey and the like. These are the principles that keep the blue chip industries in business. Are they useful around the kitchen table? Maybe, but life's too short for me to worry about it. Could that be construed as an "inability to interact with others"? I prefer "Prioritizing".
 
LOL! You are talking processes...I am talking LIFE. Too different breeds of cat. Unless, of course, you have found a way to keep LIFE in a controlled environment.
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Besides Nasa, you're too cool for me. It's all good nonetheless. I concede you could thump my brain good in a battle of the wits.
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Did someone mention processed cheese?

Edit: BTW Nasa, I read your last two sentences with a chuckle. I hope you, in no way, thought that I was refering to you. I absolutely wasn't and it hadn't occured to me that someone here might project that statement onto themselves. I hardly consider you socially inadequate, in fact, quite the contrary.
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Touche, my friend!

EDIT: Note to self: Do not get into technical debates with rocket scientists....
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Who said i was inadequate?????? And socially inept???


NASA said: "Change (of varying degree) is necessary to improve a process. If the process is adequate, change is unnecessary. These are basic quality management assessment metrics. Sometimes a change is implemented not for problem solving but for diversion (shake up the troops). To evaluate a situation for change necessity, a pareto or fishbone diagram will usually suffice."

So where does a change of underwear figure in?
 
That's right Encore. Inadequate, socially inept and a sexist.....not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Tasha, your question: "Do you think it's possible to tactfully and effectively make a person aware of their own inability to interact with others? And, is it possible that they can improve their skills with just the knowledge. If yes, how?"

Simple questions, no sweat:

1. Yes, unlikely but possible.
2. Very unlikely.
3. How? Personal coaching, by somone he or she fully believes has his or her best in mind. Also unlikely. In addition, personal pain softens most people relationally (after emerging from three years of deblitating disease, my wife says I am easier to live with. I sense no change in me at all. Well, hardly any.)

It is extremely hard to get people close to you to change, at least if you try to do it directly. I'm talking about spouses and parents especially. In such cases, love and geniune serving may help change both you and the hard case. But it may not.

It's like the psychologist changing a light bulb. It takes a long time and the light bulb has to want to change. Most people deny need for change and they won't hear it. A good parable might work. I don't know one for this application. Effective parables often engage and enlist a person's emotions before they are concious it applies to them. It is powerful to put a person emotionally in the shoes of someone he or she has treated badly. The guy who nailed King David (as an example of using a parable) for taking another guy's wife, did it with a parable about a rich man stealing a poor fellow's only sheep. Former sheepherder David got mad at the thief. The parable spinner replied, "You're the man."

Humanly speaking, many people will never change. That takes more than human power. If you try to aid someone to change, wait and wait for the optimum timing, and go for it in small increments. Build trust, if posssible. The boss I mentioned was driving his managers nuts. I wanted him to succeed, and I took him to lunch and asked if he was interested in a suggestion that might ease some of our personnel difficulties. He was nervous but said he wanted to hear what I had to say.

I built him up with praise for his genuine abilities, then spent a total of eight minutes out of two hours together (I timed it) going over a few topics and comments he often made in meetings. Small stuff. I explained how they were being perceived negatively by his managment team. It was super simple, and he could see that in a couple of cases, any mention of the subject was a no win for him. We had a big meeting two days later and he followed my suggestions to the letter. People charged out of the meeting saying it was the best one ever, actually useful for a change etc. Within weeks however, I think he saw my approach to him as threatening. He began to retaliate.

As to the second part of your question, (Is it possible to improve skills just by the knowledge that they need to change?) that's unlikely though it is a great start. Usually it takes some practice rather than just a one time becoming aware of one's deficiencies. And people come with a lot of different capacites to socialize. I've met a few who were simply lacking a social cog in their brain, a handicap less visible but just as real as mental dificiency. I can't believe this. This sounds like Dr. Phil....

Hey, hope things get better with your toxic person.


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Originally posted by Redfrog:
Okanagen, are you from Canadian or American OK?Redfrog

Redfrog, I replied to this earlier but can't find it anywhere on the thread so will post again.

Right now I'm not in the Okanagan on either side of the border. I lived in the Canadian OK for many years. Called a lot of critters. On the Yank side it is spelled Okanogen. Where in Alberta is Hanna? I don't know that one.
 
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